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I found a cut ceiling joist (Fig 1) (the original home owner cut through it to install a gas flue which I've removed since I switched to an electric furnace), would I repair it the same way I sister floor joists? Do I need to put a board on just one side, or both sides? How long should the board that I repair it be, the hole is ~1 foot wide, the joist is 16 (or 24, I haven't measured it) feet long and ~8 inches tall.

Edit: In an unfinished attic space, used for nothing currently, but could be used for storage once I lay down some flooring. The beam runs over two pantry walls which are non-load bearing I think (as the whole beam is one piece as opposed to two joined beams) which are currently holding up the hanging ends. Details are a bit fuzzy as the attic is covered in several feet of insulation I'd have to excavate to find all the details.

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    This is below an unfinished attic? If so, then it might be easier to install two headers between the joists adjacent to the cut joist, where these headers carry the cut ends. Technically this detailing calls for the installation of two trimmers, one sistered to each joist that flanks the cut joist. In an unfinished attic I would cheat and forgo the trimmers. If you can get a full length 2×8 sister in there easily, though, then that's the best solution.
    – popham
    Commented Dec 24, 2023 at 6:23
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    Is area about the cut joist an unfinshed attic, or a partially unfinished space? If it is unfinished, is it used for storage, or could potentially used for storage?
    – Jack
    Commented Dec 24, 2023 at 7:19
  • Was it found because the ends were hanging/sinking down or you had to go looking? If no movement then a simple(slap a board on) sister/joining joist should be enough. Movement will need full sister or similar repair.
    – crip659
    Commented Dec 24, 2023 at 12:53

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Technically a sister joist should span and connect just like the cut joist used to span and connect, so the 16 ft (or 24 ft) would be the sister's length. Just a single 2×8 is sufficient.

Alternative details (such as a shorter 2×8 overlapping the cut ends by a sufficient lap distance) technically require an engineer. There exist pre-engineered brackets for repairing joist cuts like yours, but I've never seen one big enough to repair 12" of missing material. If you want, look through the Google search results from "cut joist repair bracket icc approved" to see if you can find something that works. I'm pessimistic that you'll find anything that's up to the task.

It's possible that the joists adjacent to the cut joist have sufficient strength and stiffness that simply installing headers across to carry the cut ends solves the problem. Technically this would require an engineer, but that should have happened way back when the joist was initially cut. At this point I consider fixing it adequately with or without the engineer as socially responsible.

With the cut joist no longer able to carry its design loads, each of the adjacent joists must carry half of the cut joist's load in addition to their own loads. This means that their loads are multiplied by 3/2. What is that load? 5 psf dead load is reasonable for a 2×8 plus 1/2" gypsum board. Multiplying by 3/2, 7 psf is a decent approximation for 1.5(5 psf). 20 psf live load is required by the IRC if there's 42" or greater distance between top of joist and bottom of rafter (technically if there are stairs up to the attic, then the live load is 30 psf). Multiplying by 3/2, that 20 psf becomes 30 psf. The deflection limit for gypsum board over ceiling joists is L/240 (technically it's L/360 for brittle ceilings like plaster). You'll need to find the lumber's species and grade. The AWC maintains a span calculator that will take these inputs and give you a maximum span length. If your span length is shorter than the computed span length, then sisters for the adjacent joists are unnecessary. In that case, a single 2×8 header across the opening with joist hangers under the header ends and a joist hanger under the cut joist end is by-the-book adequate (implemented twice, once for each side of the cut). Technically you need a permission slip from an engineer to certify its adequacy.

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  • This is in an unfinished attic space. The reason I'm not so confident in some details is because the attic is full of several feet of insulation and I haven't excavated it all yet. Would this solution work, adding headers to the neighboring beams (with or without sistering?) youtube.com/watch?v=-08ozpFJqJc or should I use something like this bower beam support system platinumchemicals.co.uk/blogs/news/… but I think it's europe only.
    – Zen00
    Commented Dec 24, 2023 at 15:18
  • @Zen00, based on the Bower Beam marketing material's focus on joist ends, I suspect that it's designed to compensate for relatively small stiffness loss qnd for shear capacity loss. Overall joist deflection is more sensitive to stiffness loss toward the middle than at the ends. At the ends of a joist, the material along top-of-joist and bottom-of-joist is somewhat inactive, where the Bower Beam probably does little to compensate for this material. Toward midspan, unfortunately, this top and bottom material is critical to strength. Conclusion? No to the Bower Beam.
    – popham
    Commented Dec 24, 2023 at 18:45
  • @Zen00, that YouTube video is the idea from my comment under your question. Of course if you can get a sister up there, then just one for the cut joist should be your focus. I would face nail the headers to the cut joist ends and not bother with joist hangers. I would face nail the headers to the adjacent joists and not bother with metal hangers for the headers. I'll add to my answer how to check if the single adjacent ceiling joists have sufficient reserve strength (and stiffness) to carry the cut joist by-the-book.
    – popham
    Commented Dec 24, 2023 at 19:40

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