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I currently have a 50' length of 14/2 UF-B. I only need to dig a 40' trench, but I know it should be buried 24" deep. That seems like it will be a lot of work to bury it that deep. It seems like it would be a good idea to run it through some form of conduit so that I don't have to dig so deep. There's also the added benefit of being able to run a different size cable in the future. I'm not sure if there are different requirements with running UF-B through conduit, so I'd like some advice on which conduit I should use, or how I should dig this trench more easily.

I assume that the 14/2 UF-B is still the cheapest cable option. I looked into renting a trencher, but the cheapest I could find was $150 for 4 hours. since it's a 40' trench, it didn't seem worth the price if I could just use a shovel. PVC conduit is pretty cheap, but as far as I can tell, it still needs to be buried to a depth of 18". As far as I know, the only other option is IMC, which only requires a depth of 6". Looks like I can buy 10' lengths of IMC for $16 (so $64 for 40'). I don't know if there are any other options. I found 50' length of flexible PVC conduit for $35, which is cheaper, but I'm not sure how deep it needs to be buried.

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    If you are concerned about a few inches difference in depth you will really be not happy when you find how hard UF is to pull through conduit. If you want easy go with rigid metal conduit it only requires 6” of cover or about an 8” trench. Then pull thhn /thwn wire through and go to #12 at least.
    – Ed Beal
    Commented Apr 5, 2021 at 23:30
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    @EdBeal You overstate the difficulty...just go down to the nearest "adult store" that I've seen along I-5 when I visit friends in Oregon and pick up some tubes of Adult lube and use that on the UF, then NP! Slicker than an otter in heat. (If I don't get snipped for this, I'll be surprised!) Take care all...just a bit of humor during these trying times. Commented Apr 6, 2021 at 0:44
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    No, it needs to be 25" deep. You need 24" of cover not 24" burial depth. Commented Apr 6, 2021 at 3:15
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    "the cheapest I could find was $150 for 4 hours. since it's a 40' trench, it didn't seem worth the price if I could just use a shovel." - boy are you going to be in for a surprise Commented Apr 6, 2021 at 5:25
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    If you're going to go with PVC conduit at 18" of cover, but don't want to dig the whole thing by hand, rent a powered post hole digger. That's what I did last summer (well, used one I'd already purchased) to dig a series of holes along the trench line. I used the auger to go down about 20-22", then cleaned it all up with shovels. It was much easier than hand digging the whole thing, and rental should be much cheaper than a trencher.
    – FreeMan
    Commented Apr 6, 2021 at 14:29

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I'd use conduit with THHNs in it and save the UF for wiring the office-shed

One thing most people don't realize about UF is that it can be used as a substitute for NM with the same makeup; the NEC permits this in NEC 340.10 point 4, and while it's usually uneconomical, it's a good way to use up spare lengths of UF. This is because while it's legal to use UF in conduit, it's a waste of conduit fill compared to using individual wires, and also much harder to pull through the conduit compared to individual THHN conductors.

I'd use a 1.5" and a 1" PVC conduit at 18" to top of conduit (20-24" deep trench) in your situation; if you don't need anything else, you can use the 1" conduit for 3 (1 circuit) or 4 (1 MWBC = 2 circuits) 12AWG THHNs to a 60A non-fusible AC disconnect box on the outside of the office-shed. You can then run your branch circuit(s) from that box, and just provision a 15A feeder breaker at the panel you're running this from, with the 1.5" conduit left as a spare for future provisions of more power, or fiber Ethernet to the shed for that matter.

If trenching that is out of reach, you could use rigid or intermediate metallic conduit in the same sizes in an 8-9" deep trench, but keep in mind that that conduit is going to pose an obstacle to landscapers and others going digging in the yard in a way a 24" deep PVC conduit won't. You'll also need to use metal (RMC) expansion fittings in the riser at each end instead of the much cheaper PVC versions, in addition to the conduit being considerably costlier than PVC, and occasionally requiring either compression (threadless) couplings or a threading machine.

So, it's either more work trenching, or more work hauling, cutting, and threading conduit, with the latter creating a hidden annoyance for landscapers as well. Pick your poison.

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  • Once you're specifying 12 AWG might as well put in 20A breaker for extra capacity at no extra charge. Commented Apr 6, 2021 at 0:00
  • @manassehkatz-Moving2Codidact -- not with 14AWG on the branch circuits since there's no panel at the shed Commented Apr 6, 2021 at 0:34
  • Took me a minute: Using the 14/2 UF inside the shed puts the limit at 15A. Commented Apr 6, 2021 at 0:35
  • I’m okay with returning the UF-B if I don’t need it (I already wired the inside with 14/2 NM).
    – Andrew
    Commented Apr 6, 2021 at 1:12
  • @Andrew -- yeah, returning the UF-B is an option as well Commented Apr 6, 2021 at 1:45
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If your goal is to minimize trenching, Rigid conduit is the best choice... it only needs 6" of cover, you can trench it with a garden trowel. Note this is 12" under a vehicle pathway (driveway etc.) Use largest size you're willing to pay for but 1/2" is enough for small stuff. Note that Rigid conduit and the metal boxes it is bolted to qualifies as the grounding path, so 1 less wire.

Now to be clear about conduit -- you are required to assemble, complete, and bury the conduit before you start pulling any wires. You cannot assemble the conduit around the wires. Then you pull all the wires in.

See what ThreePhaseEel says about ... well, anything lol... but in particular, wire types. I would use stranded THWN myself. If you bring over 2 hot wires, they can be the same color. Neutral must be white or gray.

THWN cannot go "loose in walls" so at the end of the conduit run, install a junction box and transition to normal NM cable. The disconnect box will suffice on the shed end.

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  • Ah, good to know. Why can’t I thread the wire through the cable one 10’ section at a time? That was my plan originally.
    – Andrew
    Commented Apr 6, 2021 at 3:44
  • Also, I’m a little confused about the wire...I only need about 50’ wire. So if I went with IMC and THWN, I would only need a black and white. I can only find spools of 2000’. Do they sell them in 50’ spools?
    – Andrew
    Commented Apr 6, 2021 at 3:50
  • Never mind, I found some. $25/50’ spool of THHN. Does it need to be THWN? So $50 total. Can’t remember how much I paid for the UF-B.
    – Andrew
    Commented Apr 6, 2021 at 3:54
  • @Andrew -- it does need to be THWN, but most THHN is dual rated THWN in this day and age. And the isuse with running the conduit over the wire is that it can damage the wire atop making it possible to assemble a run you can't service later due to bends/pullpoint limits and such. (Assemble the run, then run a pulling string through it using a vacuum and a foam "mouse" or plastic baggie tied to the end of the string, then use that string to pull the wires thru) Commented Apr 6, 2021 at 11:41
  • @Andrew this is why you must assemble the conduit first.
    – FreeMan
    Commented Apr 6, 2021 at 14:25

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