Here is a quick exercise:

  • Wires for two circuits are entering a junction box through one conduit.
  • On the other end, the circuits split into two branches
  • Two neutrals entering (current count = 2)
  • Two hots entering (current count = 4)
  • Two grounds entering (current count = 5)
  • Wire gauge is 12, so total volume is 5 * 2.25 = 12.25 cu inches

Does this calculation have to include wires that are exiting? I will have two 12/2 Romex. If this figures into calculation, 2x the volume is needed (24.5 cu inches).

Edit 1: I should clarify that this will be a junction box without any devices on it. On one end, a 1/2 inch LFMC is entering with a plastic connector, and on the other end, two 12/2 Romex wires will exit individually through a snap on connector each.

  • What size conduit?
    – Ed Beal
    Aug 24, 2020 at 22:23
  • Wires exiting have to be counted too. You'd need to add 4 for the two NM cables and possibly 1 for the cable clamps depending on type.
    – JACK
    Aug 24, 2020 at 22:59
  • Added more info to the question.
    – cryptic0
    Aug 24, 2020 at 23:02
  • A cable is several wires bundled. Aug 25, 2020 at 2:43

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Wires exiting have to be counted too. You'd need to add 4 for the two NM cables. Conduit lock nuts, NB snap and outside clamps are not counted in the fill calculations. The grounds leaving with the NM cables don't count either because you've already counted a ground.


You count all wires that depart the box

When dealing with box fill, you have to count all the wires that depart the box (NEC 314.16(B)(1) is phrased "Each conductor that originates outside the box and terminates or is spliced within the box..."), no matter which direction they're running in the circuit topology. Note, however, that while you need two hots and two neutrals running through the LFMC, you only need one grounding wire shared between both circuits. (Think about the case where the conduit's the grounding path.)

Note also that you only need to count 1/4 of your grounds for box fill. (It used to be that you only counted one ground out of the entire grounding bundle in the box, but that changed in 2020 to deal with boxes that had loads and loads of cables entering them.)

  • The box I am using is 21 cubic inches in size. With 5 cables entering and 4 cables exiting, the minimum volume comes out to 9 * 2.25 = 20.25 cubic inches. I guess I am running pretty tight, but I will let the inspector decide if he wants to fail me on that count. Second, I had a discussion with someone who basically told me that using the same ground raises the risk of overheating and fire. Not sure how likely that is.
    – cryptic0
    Aug 24, 2020 at 23:49
  • 2
    No risk of overloading ground. Ground carries no current at all under normal circumstances, only when their is a fault and possibly some very low current for timers/etc. that are allowed to use ground. Ground just needs to be large enough for the largest individual circuit in the bunch. Neutral is a different story. Aug 25, 2020 at 0:09

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