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I have a water tank giving me +-14.5m of head (gravity-fed, no pump).

I also have a Toto brand Ecowasher, which is a bidet function toilet seat.

Unfortunately the Ecowasher is not very effective because the fittings seem to be designed for a higher water pressure in that there is a tiny chokepoint inside it which means that the pipe size is only maybe 1/8". My friend has the same product with higher water pressure and it works well.

So I can get a pressure tank similar this one:

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which has 19l capacity and costs just a few dollars and goes up to 9 bar max, and then it will fix the problem.

Now that's fine but I have a shower with gas water heater and it also suffers from low pressure. I have a shower hose attached to a bath/shower mixer, and if it's set to 'bath', then I get around 16l/minute, which is a lot, but if I set it to 'shower', then I get only around 5.5l/minute, and when mixed between cold and hot the gas water heater is likely to cut out, because the water flow isn't enough. It's my understanding that a shower should use at least 9l/minute, so my water heater doesn't like the very low pressure created by the shower head designed for higher water pressure.

So for the example above the pressure tank has a capacity of 19l, and we could just say 'well the shower was pulling out 5.5l/minute and then we increase the water pressure and it's now 10l/minute, so that means that the tank is emptying at 4.5l/minute, so will be empty in just over 4 minutes'. But clearly that is not really true, because the pressure tank is continuously fed by gravity, so while it is emptying it is also re-filling. And we've already observed that the normal tap gets 16l/minute, so given that we have a 1" pipe feeding at 1.4 bar, and then pulling out at an effective 1/4" (based on the shower hose diameter) at maybe 4 bar, then does that mean that in fact the pressure tank will never empty, assuming there is still water in the tank, and in this case there is no need to buy a tank any larger than the smallest 19l size, because for this use case, the tank will never empty?

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    Were you planning to have a pump you don't mention? Without one, the pressure tank alone does essentially nothing for you. – Ecnerwal May 30 at 21:26
  • I was not planning to have a pump. Are you saying that the tank is not pressurised unless pumped at a certain pressure? – thelawnet May 31 at 4:36
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Installing a pressure tank will only correct your problem if you can raise the pressure above the existing pressure you now have. As @Ecnerwal asked, are you installing a pump to raise the pressure? Your 14.5m of head translates into 20.6 PSI of water pressure. So that pressure tank is not a pressure tank for storage unless you can raise the supply pressure above your gravity pressure which is why the question of a pump was asked. In order to get your system to operate better you need to raise the system's pressure as your friend has so the water flow is increased. So, to get more water pressure you need to raise the height of the tank or add a pump to the system.

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