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Newer machines have a drain flow rate which overwhelms older drains, and there's no adjustment. The only answer I ever hear is tear up your floor and put in new bigger drain pipe. That is not an option in some cases.

Getting an older machine isn't feasible because it's starting to be hard if not impossible to find parts. Is there any way of cutting the pressure down so it doesn't back up and flood the floor in older homes?

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  • Hello, and welcome to Stack Exchange. It isn't clear what you're difficulty is; is it that your washing machine's output pump overwhelms the drain you've routed it into? Commented Sep 26, 2018 at 2:07
  • With all the special features on the newest washers one wonders why the manufacturers don't offer an adjustable draining flow rate. Does this overflow occur only with the largest sized loads (and highest water volume)? I know for efficiency and utility one wants to use the largest loads that the washer can handle, but until the plumbing can be modified would it help to wash smaller loads? Commented Sep 26, 2018 at 10:25
  • Interesting article on this subject.: pmmag.com/articles/85477-it-s-not-the-plumbing. The mfgr's moving to higher flow rates for draining seems to me to be without benefit that could compensate for the downside. We have a new Samsung washer in our 1970 tract slab-on-grade house with a 2" ABS downtube, and have not had any overflows. (The outflow hose on the washer just barely fits inside the downtube.) But we rarely wash the largest loads that the washer is rated to handle. Commented Sep 26, 2018 at 10:42
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    You can get a front loading washing machine. They use much less water and the discharge is of significantly less force. They are also much kinder on your clothes.
    – Alaska Man
    Commented Dec 20, 2020 at 20:18

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As mentioned in other posts, in the old days, we had laundry sinks/tubs that the washer drained into. The tub would fill up and then slowly drain. The tub acted as a "buffer" to temporarily hold water until the drain would catch up. My solution was to replace the 1 1/2" drain pipe with 3" pipe. I used a 3 to 1 1/2" reducing coupler to mate with the existing drain, connected 24" or so of 3" pipe, put another reducing coupler on top for the hose to go into. The top reducing coupler is just so nothing accidentally falls in. A 3" pipe holds 4 times the amount of water that a 1 1/2" pipe holds for the same length (a 4" pipe holds 7x the water!). The 3" pipe mimics the old laundry tubs. Newer HE washers use a lot less water so we don't need big tubs. Here's a picture:

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  • Hello, and welcome to Home Improvement. Thanks for the answer; keep 'em coming. And, you should probably take our tour so you'll know the details of contributing here. Commented Dec 20, 2020 at 20:28
  • Any concerns with weight on the PVC below with all that water, or does the strap make it a non issue? Commented Jun 19, 2023 at 23:51
  • The water flows so the weight is temporary, and only if the inflow exceeds the outflow, but you do need some support, so it really depends on how full the reservoir gets. If it is full all the time, then you'll need to mount it properly. If it is used once every 3-4 days, and it doesn't fill up for the entire time, then it probably is fine.
    – Nelson
    Commented Sep 29, 2023 at 1:12
  • I'd say cycling the weight is worse than having it constant. That hose clamp used to support it is necessary, unless the drain flow is better than you budgeted for. This is only 2-3 l (under a US gallon) so still relies on a decent flow through the trap on all but the most efficient machines. It should usually be enough
    – Chris H
    Commented Sep 29, 2023 at 8:02
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You could try building your own washing machine "sump".

Build a temporary storage tank for the water from your washing machine. You could use a (plastic) drum or bucket with a capacity which exceeds the total water capacity of your washing machine by at least 50% (100% or more would probably be better to be on the safe side).

Let the washing machine drain into the temporary storage.

In the temporary storage tank install a (sump) pump with a flow rate that matches your home's drainage system. The pump can the either be manually operated or have an automatic switch to turn on when a certain amount of water has been pumped into the storage tank. Make sure the pump used can handle the occasional solids that may be ejected by your washing machine.

In The Netherlands a company sells a product which can also be used in this situation, here is the company's site. The site is in Dutch and French but you should be able to get the gist of it or use google translate. I'd assume that in your country comparable products would be sold.

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    The "classic" version of this is the "Laundry sink" - which you can still get, fairly inexpensively for plastic versions. Stone ones are either a lot of money, or (often enough) free if you haul them out of someone's basement ;-) ...And it gives you another big sink when needed. No pump needed for most installations.
    – Ecnerwal
    Commented Sep 26, 2018 at 15:02
  • @Ecnerwal. This should perhaps be an answer on its own. This is exactly What my parents did and what I did years later.
    – Michael J.
    Commented Sep 26, 2018 at 15:35
  • It's fundamentally the same answer (less a few complications, but those are not essential to the main concept of the answer - providing a temporary reservoir to allow time for draining), and I hardly need the points.
    – Ecnerwal
    Commented Sep 26, 2018 at 17:38
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The answer is to install a large(r) standpipe.

Some older homes have a 1 1/2" or 2" galvanized standpipe (with trap at the bottom) inside of the wall. Others have the trap on the outside of the wall, with a traditional thin-walled galvanized standpipe running up the wall from the trap. Both are undersized for newer washers with pump outputs that exceed their capacity.

For outside the wall traps, it is relatively simple to build a larger diameter standpipe out of ABS or PVC pipe, adapting it to fit into the existing (or better, newly replaced) trap.

For inside the wall setups it is a bit more invasive but still DIY feasible to open the wall and remove the original galvanized standpipe, plumb the trap to the outside of the wall, and build a larger diameter standpipe as outlined above.

The larger standpipe gives more holding capacity to allow your old crusty occluded drain system time to drain down prior to overflow.

I have "fixed" several issues like yours with 3" ABS standpipes. Another option is the old laundry tub trick.

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  • Good idea, but it seems like it offers false security. If an abnormally large load is run, or if the old plumbing slows further, the problem recurs.
    – isherwood
    Commented Sep 26, 2018 at 13:56
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One reported solution is to put a restriction fitting on the back of the washing machine. Obviously this could damage the washing machine if the pressure inside rose too high or could cause a leak inside the machine. But maybe a modest restriction would reduce the flow rate enough to prevent drain overflow without causing these negative effects.

Our new Samsung top loader has a larger drain line than our old Maytag and a different type (but we have not had any overflows from the 2" down-tube). Maybe a change to the old style of drain hose would allow plumbing in a PVC ball valve or maybe a smaller diameter drain hose would by itself restrict the flow enough to prevent overflow.

Perhaps one could plumb in a 1" or 1.5" PVC ball valve so one could adjust the resistance to achieve no overflow with the least restriction.

https://www.doityourself.com/forum/plumbing-piping/297214-washing-machine-drains-too-fast.html

03-08-07, 10:44 AM formula formula is offline Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 389 Even though GregH told you, "No, You can not slow down the flow of the washer", this is precisely what you can do. I've done it to solve the exact same problem.

There is nothing sacred about a washing machine pump. It's just a centrifugal pump; if it has to pump against a little more restriction, it really doesn't care.

I lived in a house built in the mid 1960's and the plumbing drains just weren't done properly; not enough venting, and not enough flow capacity. The washing machine would overload its drain and start overflowing.

A solution to your problem is to put a restriction in your washing machine discharge hose to slow down its flow to what your drain can handle. Just don't slow it down to the point that your washing machine timer times out and goes on to the next step in the cycle! I think I used a copper reducer fitting (copper solder fitting) that would fit inside the discharge hose and reduce down to 1/2" or so. I placed the fitting inside the drain hose where it connects to the back of the washing machine and then put a hose clamp around it to hold it in place.

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  • I like this solution. Simply reducing the diameter of the pipe for a short distance should do the trick, and while the pump will run longer I'd be surprised if it's a concern with regard to longevity. I'd avoid a valve since that opens the door to excess restriction. The reducer should be easily removable for inspection and cleaning, as it's a choke point for debris.
    – isherwood
    Commented Sep 26, 2018 at 14:00
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i use a switch. Put floating lever on top of the drain pipe, and when the overflowing water hits it, the switch disconnects the relay and shuts the washing machine power.

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    I can envision that cutting the power to newer, electronically controlled washers would not only stop the cycle when power goes off, but not restart the cycle when power comes back on. It seems to me to be a reasonable precaution on the manufacturer's side to not assume that everything is OK when the power comes back on and, therefore, to not restart the cycle. If you have a washer with a mechanical timer, I'm sure this works just fine.
    – FreeMan
    Commented Mar 8, 2022 at 14:54
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I have been using washer hose reducers in some of my older rentals. There is no damage to the pump and actually reduces the load on the pump due to the reduce amount of water it has to pump. You have to test how small you need to reduce by running a draining cycle and wait to see if it starts to overflow. Works great.

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I had the same issue. I swapped the clothes washer hose with a dishwasher hose. The clothes washer hose was 1" but the dishwasher was only .75", that restricted the flow & forced the pump to slow down. The dishwasher hose fit easily onto the clothes washer without any modifications. The repair took 5 min & completely fixed the problem.

The wash cycle takes a couple extra minutes because it drains slower, but everything still works normally. I'm nervous it might be harder on the motor & cause the machine to die early, but I decided it was worth the risk.

I'm also considering switching from a top loader to a front loader because front loaders use less water.

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An alternate, unexpensive option without any changes to the building or plumbing might be a phase control unit which is directly inserted to the hot wire to the drain pump motor. F.e. many modern vacuum cleaners have such a unit to change/adapt the power of the ca. 800W vacuum cleaner motor.

The drain pump does normally not have more then 200W (typical 50-120W), but it lacks the air flow of a vacuum cleaner which is used to cool the triac. Due to its construction and low efficiency the drain motor needs some minimum power to reliably start under load - the dial should be adjusted accordingly.

These phase control units - which must be suited for inductive/motor loads - are available in the Internet for a low budget or even free at the next recycling yard, where many vacuum cleaners can be found. This method requests some skills, knowledge and precaution, the drain pumps of washing machines are normally supplied by the dangerous line voltage. It should be done by an electrician.

Via this phase control the drain pump throughput could be adjusted just like the motor of a vacuum cleaner.

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I was having this overflow issue as well. I could tell the line had some buildup in it from the years of soap and and oil accumulation from cleaning clothes. The first thing I did was to clean the drain line in the wall with hot water and (granular) drain cleaner. You can disconnect the hot water hose from the back of the washing machine and use the hot water there. You always want to run hot water through the line for about five minutes to warm up the pipe and accumulation so the drain cleaner will work better.

Once it was good and warm I gave it 3 good treatments and then flushed it out really good. make sure to get as much pressure from the hose as possible. I actually end up putting a high volume spray nozzle from the yard on so that I could start and stop the water easily.

This process reduced the overflow by about 75% but I still had a small bit of overflow on the largest loads. I am going to use one of the gasket fittings I saw online for the top of the drain pipe. The gasket fits snug around the hose and inside the drain line to stop overflow. Since the overflow is minimal now i am hopeful that will work.

If not I will try one of the solutions listed and enlarge the pipe. I would definitely clean the drain before you do anything else. you may solve the problem with that alone. I almost did.

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  • I'm not sure that sealing the top of the washing machine drain pipe is a great idea. They're specifically designed to not be sealed. Just because it's for sale at a web site named after a large river doesn't mean it's a good idea...
    – FreeMan
    Commented Jun 7, 2023 at 17:17

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