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This is more of a practical question than an NEC one. I've dealt with aluminum wiring in a prior home and know how much of a pain it is to use CO/AL bridges and Noalox to meet code.

In my case I need to run a long 100 ft 240V 30A circuit. 10AWG CU is crazy expensive compared to a couple years ago. 8AWG AL is reasonable, about the price of 10AWG before the price hikes. In a home with all-copper wiring built in the 2000's, would you recommend adding a circuit with AL? One of my concerns is if/when I sell the house, the inspector may raise a flag on the AL circuit. Any other concerns I should be thinking about?

Another option is to use UF cable which hasn't spiked in price. It sounds unbelievable, but check the big box stores and you'll be surprised. I've read that UF cable is hard to work with due to conductors being rigidly encased.

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  • Other questions have mention that UF cable being dirt cheap compared to other types, also allowed inside. Think it comes down to the pain of working with AL connections or the pain of working with UF, if price is close enough.
    – crip659
    Commented Feb 13, 2022 at 18:19
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    Your plan to switch to AL for price savings is very reasonable as noted in all the answers. Be sure, however to check your local codes as noted in manassehkatz's answer, as it could be outlawed in your city/county/state.
    – FreeMan
    Commented Feb 14, 2022 at 14:28

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Yes, that sounds like a fine idea.

My only suggestion is to upsize another step to #6 alumimum. This will place you more definitely in the "heavy feeder" category (which as Ecnerwal discusses, has never been a problem), quell buyer complaint, while also giving you wider selection and availability of wire. By and large it won't affect your ability to attach to connectors, and if you do need to pigtail to copper, ILSCO's "Mac Block Connector" is an affordable Polaris class connector that takes up to #6.

Do check the connectors to make sure they are AL rated. Most sockets are; some appliances are not glares at Tesla.

Setting torques correctly is a Code requirement for any lug or terminal that specifies a torque - even the little stuff. The importance of this was known, but in the 2000s it was discovered that electricians are really bad at setting torques (one test booth taken to trade shows did tests on couples and found the electrician wasn't any more accurate than their spouse.) All this research centered on copper wire, but it jibes with aluminum - electricians always set torques on heavy feeder, but never set torques on receptacles and switches during the making of the 70s aluminum wire crisis.

Finding an affordable torque screwdriver is a pain. I like "beam type" torque wrenches, because they never need calibration. For around $25 most home stores sell a 1/4" beam-type torque wrench that goes to 100 inch-pounds.

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Virtually all 30A devices will be supplied with terminals compatible with aluminum.

Large feeder wire was never the problem with aluminum wiring. 10 & 12 Ga Aluminum wire on copper/brass terminals not designed for it was the problem.

Aluminum is fine, safe, and sane for the application. Install it correctly, of course, inclusive of noalox paste or equivalent and correctly torquing the connections - but you're now supposed to correctly torque the connections regardless of wire type or size, as that became a recognized issue.

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  • Thanks again @Ecnerwal. You're a treasure trove of information. How do you torque to the appropriate level? I've hand torqued it as hard as humanly possible with a screwdriver. Feels about as insanely tight as what electricians have done on other connections.
    – pmont
    Commented Feb 13, 2022 at 19:00
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    Too tight is as bad as too loose. You use a torque driver, or torque wrench and follow the specs for the device/wire combination.
    – Ecnerwal
    Commented Feb 13, 2022 at 19:19
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As long as the ends (breaker and receptacle) are both marked for Aluminum use, technically everything will be fine.

However, some jurisdictions may place their own limitations on use of aluminum wire. For example, in Montgomery County, MD:

17.02.01.11

Section 310.15(B) Tables. Delete the first sentence and substitute with the following: The minimum size of conductors must be as shown in Table 310.15(B)(16) through Table 310.15(B)(19), as modified by Table 310.15(B)(l) through (B)(7), except that the minimum size of aluminum and copper-clad aluminum conductors must be No. 2. The use of aluminum conductors is limited to service entrance and feeder applications only.

which effectively means you can't use aluminum in this application, at least not without some extra equipment so that it isn't a simple branch circuit.

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    This is an excellent warning about locale specific codes!
    – FreeMan
    Commented Feb 14, 2022 at 14:27
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    Checked the requirements in my municipality and the minimum AL size is 6 AWG. They really only want AL used for feeder lines!
    – pmont
    Commented Feb 15, 2022 at 18:47
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Give AFC or MC cable a try, it currently is about the same price as as the aluminum and it should comply with your code requirements.

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  • Thanks @Gil, I didn't seriously consider those, but given the prices it's worth consideration. Since they're in metal conduit, does AFC / MC need to be stapled down?
    – pmont
    Commented Feb 13, 2022 at 19:11
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    I believe @pmont, that any new construction work (where studs are exposed) must be supported, while old work (of any kind) does not (since that would involve ripping open walls & ceilings all along the run). However, wait for an actual electrician to confirm that. Even better, ask a whole new question to confirm.
    – FreeMan
    Commented Feb 14, 2022 at 14:30

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