My goal is to install a new set of blinds in an existing window. It looks like a former owner tried to do the same thing and split the wood on the side of the window casing. Unfortunately the location of the split is exactly where I need to screw into. There are plenty of videos out there on how to repair split wood, but I can't figure out how to do it without removing the window. I'm not excited to go down that road - any other suggestions?
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Yes, a pic would help. But my first suggestion is filling the crack with epoxy. Others here may have a better solution.– George AndersonCommented Feb 1, 2022 at 8:42
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1@GeorgeAnderson I'm worried about epoxy, because although that would fill the gap I wonder if driving a screw afterward would still put pressure on the wood and re-split it? I dont know, maybe that's a silly thing to worry about– Ben SCommented Feb 1, 2022 at 9:04
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1You probably need to clamp the wood down after you glue it (epoxy or other), so that it has its original width again afterward.– MiGCommented Feb 1, 2022 at 9:11
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2@BenS That's always a hard call. Still, I'd epoxy it and then drill a lead hole of a size just shy of the intended screw. Epoxy is pretty strong, G– George AndersonCommented Feb 1, 2022 at 10:23
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3It looks like the existing shade holder was mounted in the sash channel...where the window slides up and down. That isn't right.– Steve WellensCommented Feb 1, 2022 at 17:48
4 Answers
Option 1
You don't have to repair the holes. Use longer screws that go all the way into the framing and hold the blinds' brackets solidly. For blinds that will be yanked and handled constantly that's the better thing to do anyway. After mounting the brackets you can decide whether to superficially fill and stain the holes. I think filling will look worse because a certain amount of damage such as yours is part of the vibe of an old house. Besides, it'll be hidden by the blind whether closed or open.
#6 screws should be thin enough to go through the existing holes without causing more damage. If you put a screw where there isn't already a hole, drill a hole 1/2 inch deep and big enough for the screw to pass through the sash stop (trim) without turning.
A #6x1-1/4" screw will pass through the sash stop (your damaged piece) and fasten to the jamb (the window frame) assuming that isn't also damaged. A #6x3" screw will pass through both of those, through any gap behind them and into the wall studs enough to make a solid hold.
Option 2
Drive a couple of screws half way into the frame a little to the right of these holes. This provides a way to use a clamp. Inject good wood glue into the cracks, clamp it down (using the half-inserted screws) and let dry. Then for the holes you intend to use for the new brackets, drill them out to a consistent with where you can insert a dowel. Glue the dowel in, then predrill for your brackets. Finally fill the other holes and any remaining cracks with wood filler then stain. But you know what? It'll look bad, and even if you do all this you still ought to use longer screws that drive all the way into the framing .... so why bother?
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1Option 1 is perfect, I don't care about the holes just need to install these blinds! Thanks for the idea– Ben SCommented Feb 1, 2022 at 19:18
Who says that piece of wood can't be moved?
That looks like a standard piece of window sash stop. Right next to the top hole is a hole from the nail that holds it on. If you look down the trim, you'll find several more nail holes. It would be easy to gently pry the sash stop off of the window frame to fix it. All you'd need is a stiff putty knife to slide under the edge and gently pry up right by the nails. Once you've got it started, you can use a larger tool to finish the prying.
Once you have the stop off, use wood glue injected into the crack (you'll have to pry the split apart to gently open the crack to ensure glue gets into the split, and doesn't just sit on top), then clamp it very tightly closed until the glue sets - probably 1-2 hours, check the instructions on your glue.
Once the split is repaired, you have options for dealing with the screw holes:
- Insert some small hardwood dowels and glue them in place. This will give you a good solid bit of new wood to drill a new hole and for the new screws to bite into
- Use epoxy to fill the holes. Once it's fully set, you should be able to drill a new pilot hole and drive your screw into it. If you can't find dowels the size of the existing holes, you can make the holes larger with a drill bit to match the size dowel you can find.
- Use tooth picks and wood glue to fill the hole. Usually, this is best done with the trim back in place. Squirt some glue into the hole. Add 2 or three tooth picks. Drive the screw into the hole. Wait for the glue to set up. Remove the screw. Cut the tooth picks flush. Mount the new blind.
Of course, once you've got the trim off, you could go down to your local wood supplier (you may have to go to a lumber store or woodworker's supply store, this might not be a common trim piece to find at a big-box store) and pick up a new piece of window sash.
If you go this route, you'll have to stain it to match, and that can be a bit of an art as much as science. However, you'll have a brand new, solid piece of trim to hold the new screws.
Whichever method you choose, your best bet is to pre-drill pilot holes for the screws as you install the new blinds. That will go a long way to ensuring the wood doesn't split again.
Also, as noted in other answers/comments, use longer screws (and a deeper pilot hole) to get the screw mounted into the window frame and possibly the house frame and not just in the trim piece.
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Noted that OP has said that it's more important to install the blind than to fix the damage, but the photo suggests that the whole thing is basically just several layers of poorly-matched moulding any one of which may be removed and repaired or replaced. Commented Feb 2, 2022 at 12:23
I would make sure the holes and the cracks are clean, then glue and clamp.
You might have to be creative with a clamp - one possibility is to have a large or long bar across the front of the window and a smaller one behind to pull the gap closed. Some long screws needed.
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2And after you used whichever filler you applied, predrill the holes (again) so you won't reintroduce the split.– MiGCommented Feb 1, 2022 at 9:44
Use old hole.
You could put some of these in.
Then screw into them. You could use longer screws that go all the way to the bottom of the hole and into the wood there. You could do both of these things.
Or instead of a plastic anchor you could find a bunch of long slivers of wood that you have lying around (scraps, dowels, popsicle sticks, split pieces of firewood) and tap them them into the hole, maybe with some glue or maybe not if you have no glue. Then screw into that.
Fooling with the holes might force the split larger. Glue in the split and clamps for the split is a good idea. Some long thin screws perpendicular to the split and traversing it from the side next to the metal hardware will hold the split shut forever. Drill pilot holes for those long thin screws.
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6Is it not likely that hammering in the plastic anchor is likely to split the trim piece further? Also, with the anchor taking up most of the space in the existing hole, the mounting screws would have to be smaller to fit into the anchor, no?– FreeManCommented Feb 1, 2022 at 17:07
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@FreeMan - yes, fooling with the holes could force the split larger. Best to fix that first. Re taking up space - I get the impression that screws cut their way into those anchors and push their material laterally against the walls of the hole.– WillkCommented Feb 1, 2022 at 18:27
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1This answer would be OK if it was more like "Drill the hole larger (the exact size of a dowel), coat a dowel and the hole sides with glue, and tap it in, wait for it to dry, pre-drill the hole (because you're now screwing into end grain) and wind a cutting screw (or a screw you've ground a flat spot into, at the tip) into it.." .. could also skip a bit of the messing around if you have a plug cutter and can fill the hole with a side-grain plug (but I'd still at least pre drill it before screwing).. Using plastic anchors that rely on forcing the surrounding material apart = problem.. Commented Feb 2, 2022 at 18:02