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Wiring for switched NEMA 6-20R and 5-20R in same box in garage

My goal is to have 20A receptacles in a particular spot in my garage dedicated to power tools (such as saws) whose motors can be configured for either 240V or 120V, with a switch as a handy second ...
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Look over father's plan to fix outdoor electrical circuit

So to begin with, I am not a DIY'er when it comes to electricity. I prefer to allow the professionals to handle these matters as it's not something I'm confident in and not too knowledgeable about... ...
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Splitting 240V into two 120V Circuits

I think I have this figured out for the most part but looking for validation from expert strangers on the internet. Renovated the kitchen in this 1960's house. I think it probably has been renovated ...
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GFCI breaker on a MWBC (Shared common)

We are doing kitchen reno. We had to replace the main breaker panel. Local code requires we use arc fault breakers. This is not an issue for most of the project, however, the inspector is insisting ...
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GFCI receptacle connected to Multi-Wire Branch Circuit

I have a Multi-wire branch circuit & would like to connect GFCI receptacles. The MWBC currently powers dimmable LED lights in basement. In process of finishing basement. I would like to extend ...
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Identifying what receptacles and fixtures are on each branch of a MWBC

How should I safely identify which breaker controls which fixtures & receptacles in a Multi-Wire Branch Circuit? There is intentionally a handle tie for the MWBC in my panel which must be kept to ...
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Disposal Circuit Update

I moved to a house built in 1995 and want to update the disposal connection, but found some conflicting rules that I don't know how best to comply with. The existing connection is a 14-2 NM cable run ...
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3 phase MWBC - 2 pole breaker with shared neutral

I’ve searched around and can’t quite find an answer to my question. I understand that you can share a neutral on a 3 phase panel if you use a 3 pole breaker. But can you still share a neutral on a 3 ...
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MWBC exists, use for bathroom?

I am finishing my basement. The previous owner had ran a MWBC to the area that will be the bathroom. In the panel it is two 1-pole 20amp breakers. My questions are: First to confirm, it seems I ...
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MWBC for split kitchen receptacle

When installing a split receptacle in a kitchen, where the top and bottom are each their own circuit, is there any way you can use an MWBC, or is your only option to run two normal circuits with two ...
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Can I have an MWBC plus another circuit in the same junction box?

The conduit coming in on the left carries a 15 A MWBC. In this junction box, it splits to the brown-to-black wire for the furnace, and the orange wires to some basement lights (top) and an upstairs ...
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Two Circuits on a Single 12/3 - Shared Neutral

I was recently trying to upgrade a 20A breaker supplying outlets in my kitchen and dining room to a CAFCI breaker. When I opened my breaker box I saw that the neutral on this circuit was shared with ...
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Multi-Wire Branch Circuit on wrong breakers

My electrical panel has a double-pole breaker that looks like it's for a MWBC, but actually the attached wires are from different cables. In the below picture the black wire with the yellow rubber ...
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In a multiwire branch circuit, can the two hots be connected to the same phase?

This may be an obvious question, but I haven't been able to find a direct answer. I believe I have a MWBC - I have two hot wires connected to two separate circuit breakers, sharing a neutral and ...
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Is this a weird or very problematic shared neutral?

I will try to explain it and I made a drawing that give an idea of what it seems to look like. I just had some work done on my house (built in 1967) and the electrician found this weird connection. I ...
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Neutral pigtails on MWBC

I've recently moved into a new home with a few outbuildings. Due to the property being in rural unincorporated area, no inspections or permitting was required on the outbuildings when they were built ...
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2 independent GFCI (or 2-pole GFCI) outlet in 1-gang box. Does that exist?

I have a 1-gang duplex outlet under the sink in my kitchen. The two outlets are on separate phases of a single MWBC circuit. One of them powers the garbage disposal, and is controlled by a switch. The ...
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Is it possible to wire 2 GFCI receptacles on 2 circuits with 12/3 wire shared neutral?

I am planning to run a few needed 20amp outdoor receptacles (and therefore want GFCI). My plan was to run 12/3 wire from 2 separate circuits in the panel to a double gang weatherproof box with 2 gfci ...
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MWBC and very low power factors

The principle of an MWBC is that two hots can share a neutral if they're on opposite phases, since the current on the neutral will cancel instead of adding. But isn't this only true for loads with ...
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Diagnosing a suspected multi wire branch circuit

Last week I lost power to my new garbage disposal. I opened the box to find this: There are three cables coming in from the bottom. Two of these are somewhere downstream from the Panel, not too sure. ...
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Convert MWBC to single 240V receptacle

I currently have a 20 amp double pole breaker supplying a multi-wire branch circuit for two 120v receptacles in a double gang box. I'd like to remove the 120v receptacles and install a 240v receptacle....
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Is this a MWBC?

I think I have some MWBCs that are not handle tied. Can you tell from this picture if the bottom red breakers and top blue breakers are MWBCs? I can't trace back to the conduit and they supply "...
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Can I serve mwbc 110v from 220v circuit?

If I have a 240v 20a circuit serving a single 240v 20a receptacle (12/3) can I leave the 240v receptacle in service then branch two 120v 20a circuits from it?
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Shop Electrical - MWBC Serving 240V and 120V Outlets

I've seen this setup in use in other shops and am interested in using the technique myself. However, the mere mention of it seems to incite rabid pandemonium rather than civil discourse. I'd very ...
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Overloaded circuit on ungrounded outlets

So I've stumped/annoyed most of the internet with this one. I hope there might be someone who can point me in a different direction.. I have a house built in 55 with ungrounded outlets. A space ...
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Connecting 120/240 receptacles on the same circuit breaker

I want to add a branch circuit to the control panel using 12/3 wire and protected by 20 amp double pole circuit breaker. Is it safe to connect multiple duplex receptacles 120 volts and 240 volts on ...
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MWBC for Fridge and Microwave

I've recently learned about Multi-Wire Branch Circuits and intend to use one to provide dedicated circuits for both my built-in microwave and refrigerator. I understand the requirements around handle ...
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Possible to ground-fault protect both legs of a MWBC with two single-pole breakers?

To get a MWBC working, with both legs GF protected, I installed 2 Single Pole GFI breakers, on adjacent slots, with a handle-tie. Since there are 2 lugs for Neutral wires, and only one neutral coming ...
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is this the right way to ground fault protect both sides of an mwbc?

is this the correct way to ground fault-protect both sides of an mwbc? pigtail the (line) neutral to two separate gfci outlets, and pigtail the (load) neutrals to the neutral that's going outside.
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Microwave on 220 volt branch

A friend has a microwave on the same circuit as electric stove. Independently they work fine but if an element on the stove is on and the microwave is turned on the breaker goes off. An electrician ...
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Understanding the wiring of 2-Pole Quad Circuit Breakers

I only want to understand the concept, so you dont have to address if my panel accepts tandem breakers or a certain brand of breakers. I will also omit any reference to ground wires for clarity. I ...
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Why are tandem breakers on shared neutral (MWBC) problematic?

I hear that shared-neutral or multi-wire branch circuits (MWBC) can have issues when used with tandem breakers (also called duplex, twin, cheater or double-stuff breakers). What is the issue there? ...
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2 breakers - should they work as one?

I have a circuit with 2 15 amp breakers. They don’t act, individually they both have to be shut off to shut off the circuits. Am I looking for an outlet with two devices? Example switch and outlet? ...
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Can I use a two-pole single handle breaker for mwbc?

I have a mwbc with two 20A breakers with their handles clipped for common trip. Can I replace this ensemble with a single two-pole 20A breaker with just one handle? New panel in CA. I'm unsure ...
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Best way to get both 120V and 220V from existing multiwire branch circuit (MWBC)

I have a double pole 20A breaker feeding a 120V MWBC with 12/3 with ground, romex that goes up three levels to two separate 120V duplex GFCI receptacles with common neutral. I want to have both 120V ...
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MWBC (Multi-Wire-Branched-Circuit) w/out joined breakers, how best to fix?

I was trying to replace a fan/light in my living room with a new led light, and have found that the living room branch circuit (lights and outlets) is actually fed by a Multi Wire Branch Circuit (14-3)...
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Change from 240V to 120V

I did quite a bit of research including on this forum but wanted to double check if I got things right. On the outside of our home there is a standard electrical box (guessing about 3"x5") to install ...
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MBWC using two twin breakers with middle handles tied

My question is whether overload protection will work for the two handle tied circuits described below: Four separate circuits are involved. These are in a residence, feeding outlets and lights, ...
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Separate Phases for Residential Wiring

I am trying to find out if I can use a 14/3 cable to power two separate circuits, and to do that I know I must use two separate phases, but I am not sure how to do that.
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120/240 Multi wire branch circuit - failed inspection because of uneven loads?

From a double pole 20-amp breaker, I ran 12/3 w/g to a quad box with a 120 receptacle and a 240 receptacle. Red wire from one pole of the breaker to the 240, ground to the grounds, white to neutral ...
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Could the black and white wires in a three-wire cable both be used as hots?

In my detached garage, there is a ??/3 cable (haven't measured to know the gauge, though I'm thinking it's 10..) coming into a fuse box with two circuits. The strange thing is, the third conductor is ...
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Can I use a ground rod as an equipment ground for a detached garage?

I'm in a bit of a dilemma. The house we bought has a detached garage supplied by 12/3 UF with ground. The previous owner/handyman set this up as a multiwire branch circuit (MWBC) with a twist: one ...
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Requesting Evaluation of Power Plan at Rural Cabin

What I am looking for is guidance and honest evaluation. I'm not afraid of being wrong. I want to save some bucks and learn some things, without blowing myself up. So please tell me if I'm doing ...
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Multi-Wire Branched Circuit and GFCI

Forgive me if this a repeat, but I'd like to be sure I know exactly what's going on. I am installing 2 bathroom fan/light fixtures directly over the tub in 2 adjacent bathrooms on the same circuit. ...
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What is a tandem breaker (aka duplex, cheater, twin, double-stuff, etc.)?

I keep hearing about tandem breakers, and how they won't work with 240V loads and how they should never be used for a multi-wire branch circuit. Aside from those issues... What is a tandem breaker? ...
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Using a 1-pole GFCI to test half a multi-wire branch circuit

I'm searching my electrical system for defects, fixing the last guy's work. He loved to cross neutrals (grab a hot from circuit 5 and neutral from circuit 19). I've found several instances, but it's ...