Recently I asked Is there a way to remove condensation and clean inside a double pane window? The answer appears to be "no", at least not without resorting to very dangerous chemicals.

Two of the windows in my house with failed seals are on an unheated porch. For these windows, I don't see any reason why I need to have double panes. I don't need the insulation that the double panes provide.

I'm thinking that I could just remove one of the panes. Is it possible to safely remove one of the two panes? What technique should I use?

If I do so, should I remove the inner our outer pane?

The two windows in question are fixed windows (they don't open). They were installed when the house was built 20 years ago. They are above a sliding door, so they are fairly high off the ground. The gap between the panes appears to be about 1/2 inch.

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    I can't imagine how you'd successfully smash only one pane and clean up the edges while maintaining the thickness that held the sealed unit in place. Post a pic (detail where glass meets frame) and we could have an opinion about how hard it would be to get the entire sealed unit out, and guess at putting a replacement of some description back in. – Aloysius Defenestrate Apr 20 '16 at 15:02
  • How much separation is there between the panes, and how old is this window? The old non-sealed double-pane Windows in my kitchen actually have vent plugs that could be removed to access the space between the glass. Most modern double-pane systems, however, are both sealed and have the panes closer together, making that not an option. – keshlam Apr 20 '16 at 15:31
  • @AloysiusDefenestrate: If I was forced to do it at gunpoint, ID try a glass cutter and hope to take it out cleanly ... Or just reglaze completely, as either single or double pane; it cost me $15/sash for some windows I just had done (since I did the work of dismounting them, bringing them to a glass shop, remounting and repainting the new putty after it dried). – keshlam Apr 20 '16 at 15:35
  • I've added a picture. Would you consider breaking a pane and just pulling out all the shards with pliers? – Stephen Ostermiller Apr 20 '16 at 15:54
  • Still think smashing is a poor choice -- especially if they're tempered (as was hinted in your other question). Try pulling away some of the trim around the sealed unit to see how it's held in place. As others have noted, sealed units can be made to exact size specs at reasonable prices. – Aloysius Defenestrate Apr 21 '16 at 0:52

I woud not try the "cut out or smash one pane" approach. I might try removing the pane as a unit (yep, you're going to have to dis-assemble wherever it was "built in place" a little) and drilling the seal/separator full of holes to ventilate it - or simply go ahead and replace it. If ventilated, the ventilation should be to the outside air in a heating climate.

If you replace it with a single pane unit you will very likely have condensation on the single pane, leading to sill rot. Even an unheated porch (which is connected to a heated house) is going to be warmer and moister than the outdoors in winter.

If the glass is tempered, you'll have crumbs, not shards, if you try to cut it or break it. It may or may not be tempered.

To borrow from my comment on the incredibly dangerous answer to your prior question, IF the panes are not tempered, you could try drilling two holes top and bottom on the outside pane, and glue screen over the holes.


I have similar windows at home (mine are pushing 30 years) and I've been able to replace a broken pane in one window some time back. It was not fun. As I recall, there is a rubber spacer between the panes and glass may be glued to it, and the whole assembly has the exact thickness of the channel in the window sash. If you simply remove one pane without doing anything else, the other pane will be loose. And, in order to remove it, you need to disassemble the sash and pull out the spacer, at which point you might as well wipe the interior, reassemble it as double-pane again and reseal.

I would not recommend trying to break it since you'll end up with 100 small shards partially glued to the spacer along the entire perimeter of the window.

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