0

Recently renovated a kitchen, including adding 2 GFI outlets: one by the sink and one on the opposite wall near stove. City inspector ordered that the one by the sink be removed. What reason would the city have to require the expense of removing a GFI outlet?

  • 2
    Did he mean remove it completely, or just replace it with a non-GFCI outlet? My guess is it's too close to the sink for any outlet. – Someone Somewhere Apr 17 '16 at 0:29
  • 1
    @SomeoneSomewhere, it could be behind the sink and still be code compliant. – Speedy Petey Apr 17 '16 at 1:09
  • 2
    He should have given you the reason. "Just do it" is NOT a valid request by an inspector, especially when his request makes absolutely NO sense. .......... Your question needs to be posed to the inspector, NOT us or some internet forum. – Speedy Petey Apr 17 '16 at 1:10
  • Possible duplicate of Which Kitchen outlets do NOT need GFCI? – Mazura Apr 17 '16 at 1:56
  • 1
    Can you post a photo of the device in question? – Tester101 Apr 17 '16 at 3:50
1

2011 code has nothing on the subject. However it is clear the purpose of the rules therein is to keep you from draping cords across sinks. That seems like a very good idea.

Code requires outlets anywhere there's a 12" or wider section of countertop - because that space will inevitably draw a coffeemaker or George Foreman. It's possible the inspector is seeing an outlet over a space less than 12" wide, and saying "Well, you'll never put anything there, you'll end up draping cords across the sink to another place (which might be shy of outlets)."

Code also requires a GFCI for any countertop outlet (210.8a6), and near any sink anywhere (210.8a7). That means he definitely does NOT mean to have an unprotected outlet there. If an outlet is allowed at all, it must be GFCI protected, whether by GFCI outlet, being daisy-chained from the LOAD terminals of another GFCI outlet, or a GFCI breaker in your service panel.

It's also possible he's telling you "dummy, this outlet feeds from the other one, just daisy chain it off the LOAD terminals of the first GFCI and no need for this one." But that is merely economy, and the inspector wouldn't have a stake in that.

  • If I were told that the countertop was too small for an outlet, I'd make the argument that the narrow counter space is where I'd charge my phone. – Johnny Apr 17 '16 at 1:35
  • @Johnny and there's a product for that. amzn.to/1XCBiSC – Harper Apr 17 '16 at 9:24
  • @EdBeal, code requires a receptacle within 2' of a sink, and ALL receptacles serving counter areas must be GFI protected. ....... Where are you getting your code facts from? – Speedy Petey Apr 17 '16 at 12:16
  • I originally had 2' , then remembered 4' between. Code requires any outlet within 6' of a sink to be GFCI. My state only holds that requirement. Thanks for the correction my code book is at work. – Ed Beal Apr 17 '16 at 14:45

Your Answer

By clicking “Post Your Answer”, you agree to our terms of service, privacy policy and cookie policy

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.