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My understanding of a boiler system is that it is closed, meaning the water stays in the pipes and constantly recirculates. However, there is a vent (3" PVC pipe) that is connected to it that periodically blows steam. Where does this steam come from?

  • Could be because there is a little too much pressure in the system.. it's better to blow off some steam than to blow up. Does your system have expansion tanks? – cutrightjm Dec 5 '15 at 8:04
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    Are you sure it's steam, and not combustion gases? – Tester101 Dec 5 '15 at 12:22
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    CH4 + 2 O2 => CO2 + 2 H2O + heat... – Ecnerwal Dec 5 '15 at 12:47
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You appear to have (based on your other questions) a high efficiency gas boiler which is venting combustion products at relatively low temperature via PVC pipe.

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Combustion products are carbon dioxide and water vapor (and carbon monoxide if combustion is incomplete) - thus "steam" (condensate) will be present in the exhaust.

  • Yes I believe you've nailed it, thank you. So the "steam" is actually the by-product of combusted natural gas, not actually water vapor (not from the water pipes themselves anyway). – Freedom_Ben Dec 5 '15 at 21:39
  • Do you know what the two different pipes are for? i.e. what is vented from each? Is it possible that one is an intake? I wonder because it does not vent anything visible and it is pointed downward on the outside of the building, where as the pipe that vents "steam" is angled straight out. – Freedom_Ben Dec 5 '15 at 21:42
  • Intake and exhaust. "Direct vent" or "sealed combustion" - not using inside air. – Ecnerwal Dec 5 '15 at 21:48
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Assuming that your boiler and mine are similar, you have two vents or pipes and the main exhaust.

Main exhaust will emit carbon dioxide and water vapour, the products of combustion. A modern boiler exhausts gas at a lower temperature than earlier ones, having given some heat to the incoming air, so it is possible to see the water vapour condense to form a cloud. The same effect is seen from cars on cold mornings, once the exhaust pipe is hot and the car moving, you see little or no cloud.

There should be a "condensate" pipe, this releases water that has condensed inside the unit, again, this is to give up heat that would just be lost into the air. This is acidic water, and needs to be drained away. My Worcester Bosch boiler lets it out 100ml at a time, because if it is released as a trickle or drip, as early boilers did, the trickle could freeze on cold days, causing the boiler to switch itself off.

The other vent is a safety device; my fitter said "if there's a fault and the water tries to boil, it squirts out of there, rather than exploding or squirting scalding hot water inside the house." So that's good....!

Hope this helps and isn't too patronising or inaccurate.

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if anyone is still running across this question. the two pipes are intake and exhaust. typically installers will angle the intake downward. the primary byproducts of burning natural gas are Carbon Dioxide and water vapor, not carbon monoxide. if your boiler is utilizing an outdoor reset it will vary the water temperature according to the outdoor temperature to match the BTUs needed by the home for that set of conditions. if you have radiators or baseboards these temperatures will often be above what is considered condensing temperatures. These higher temperatures do not allow for as much heat extraction from the burnt fuel and you will see the vapor more as it gets colder outside and cannot condense to release its energy in the unit.

Yes this is less efficient operation but the temperature needed is based the homes need for total BTUs and how much radiation is in the home. turning down the water temp will lessen the BTUs provided to the space and typically just make your home not heat up in cold weather.

If the concern is when is that dangerous here's a little help on that.

1) every boiler should be getting inspected once a year and your contractor should be detailing concerns for you 2) as the home owner you need to be aware that no technician can predict the future. if the exhaust smell changes to a sooty smell or black soot deposits are seen on the exhaust pipe, your unit just had a failure that you should have professionally checked. With hot water heat this type of failure is almost always coupled with no heat scenario.

Hope this helps someone out there, stay safe and stay warm

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