We need to pull the toilet out. Bolts are out of it, water is disconnected from it. It won't lifting it off, Tried twisting it off, then tried running hot water threw it for an hour and tried to remove it again.
The toilet sits on a 2 piece ceramic base (giving us about 5/8"-3/4" space off the floor), we got it out of the way. (thanks to rotted away screw and the other side is broken). We have a little play room now.
So there is the standard iron flange, what looks like 1/4" black rubber gasket material, then 3/8"-1/2" bright red iron spacer(tried cutting it with a hand saw to learn its not plastic.) and then the toilet.
NO SIGN OF ANY WAX RING or even residue from one!!!
Any ideas on how to remove the toilet? or just take a hammer to it?