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When I flush the newest toilet in my house there is a massive bubble that comes out of the toilet bowl.

The toilet flushes incredibly slowly.

The bubble does not come from the drain, but from the small hole near the front that shoots water into the drain. I don't know what that hole is called, because for whatever reason I can't find a diagram that shows that hole.

Here are some items:

  • I have done the bucket test, and dumped a 5gal pail of water into the toilet. This drains pretty much instantly and there is no air bubble.
  • I have 3 toilets in my house, 3 showers, and 5 sinks, only this one toilet drains slowly.
  • I appear to only have one sewer vent on my roof, and I have sprayed a jet of water down the vent for several minutes, there is no water backup and I don't expect there is any clog.
  • The toilet is rarely ever used, it's in the "guest" part of my house. I have used Draino on it.
  • I have plunged it, there doesn't appear to be any backup.
  • I have tried poking around in that hole where the bubble comes from, but there doesn't appear to be any obstructions.

I've seen some sites where people mention a misaligned "small hose that feeds into a bigger hose" but there doesn't appear to be any hoses that fit that description in my tank.

Anyone have any idea what this issue is?

EDIT:

Some Pictures:
The Tank:
The Tank
The Bowl:
The Bowl
The Vents
The Vents
Unfortunately you can't really see the vent that I found to be clogged, it's very hard to see it. The rusty smudge near the top right of the picture is where the clogged vent is. Although, I'm thinking it may not be a vent at all, possibly a crack?

EDIT:

I replaced the toilet with a much better one. An American Standard Champion 4. Now it flushes like a shotgun.

The moral of the story is: don't buy cheap toilets.

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    Relevant: Toilet flushes slowly and often incompletely.
    – Mazura
    Commented Apr 13, 2015 at 1:23
  • Did you ever find out how to fix it? I'm having the same problem.
    – Esteban
    Commented Nov 20, 2016 at 21:45
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    @Esteban Yes, I fixed it by throwing it out the window and buying a new one. Previous owner had cheap toilets, probably were always terrible. Commented Nov 21, 2016 at 15:55
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    It sounds like a crappy toilet to me. (Sorry just couldn't resist).
    – Ed Beal
    Commented Jan 26, 2018 at 6:48

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The hole in question is a siphon jet. It concentrates flow from the tank, jump-starting the siphoning effect.

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If you look close (I’m not suggesting you do), there’s a siphon jet hole (see letter G on diagram) in the bottom of the toilet bowl. It’s hard to see unless you put your head in the toilet (For the record, I didn’t do this). When you flush, water shoots out of this hole to fill the drain pipe. This creates a siphon.

When I investigated, it was plugged. Eureka! I cleaned it out and once again heard that perfect flush. -tomlaforce.com

See (acid), How to clean under the narrow toilet rim to restore full flush power


When you flush the toilet in the diagram, the chamber directly above the X fills with water. This chamber is connected to the same passage where the air is, above G. It's also where all the holes are and once they fill with water, the air is forced out through G.

A noticed change may be a clog somewhere but perhaps as the guest toilet, you never realized how poorly it preformed out of the box. IME this is typical of low-flow toilets but also of every toilet that hasn't been flushed in a while.

You may be interested in adjusting or installing a chain float which will hopefully allow enough water to flow after the bubble pops, to create a siphon.

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    If the OP is getting a big bubble coming out of the siphon jet, it isn't clogged, but a lot of air in the region above it ("A" in your diagram) is getting trapped and forced down the siphon jet. The "A" region has a number of small holes that lead into the bowl in order to rinse down the sides. If a lot of these holes are blocked, this would explain why air is getting trapped. Normally, the air can vent through these holes. Use something like a straightened wire shirt hanger to clear them out.
    – Dave Tweed
    Commented Apr 12, 2015 at 14:27
  • ... Although if this is a brand-new toilet, I'm not sure why there would be any clogging. Perhaps it's a manufacturing defect, and it should be replaced.
    – Dave Tweed
    Commented Apr 12, 2015 at 14:34
  • @DaveTweed I tried doing this, and on all the vent holes I was able to insert about 1.5" of coat hangar wire into the vent. There is one vent that I cannot insert a wire hangar into, so, one vent that is plugged for some reason. It appears to be rusty somehow (I know, it's not metal, it just looks rusty). No amount of force is getting that wire into the one vent directly in the front of the bowl. Commented Apr 13, 2015 at 1:12
  • @GorchestopherH I'd try using a garden hose. You run the risk of cracking it by shoving metal inside.
    – Mazura
    Commented Apr 13, 2015 at 1:20
  • I don't think that one plugged vent hole is enough to explain the big bubble. There must be something fairly substantial wedged in the "A" space above that hole. At this point, I guess I'd try disconnecting the tank from the bowl and seeing whether I can run a flexible snake from there into the "A" space, around the rim of the bowl in both directions. This would depend on the specific design of your bowl. Can you take a picture of it?
    – Dave Tweed
    Commented Apr 13, 2015 at 1:50
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UNSTOPPING THE JET HOLE FIXED IT! (see letter G on diagram).

I have a $800 designer toilet that has never flushed. The week it was installed we had a major, long-term health issue, so the issue wasn’t addressed for over 3 years (thus the toilet was not immediately returned). Since then I have replaced/customized the fill/release valve three times; taken the entire toilet out, snaked the line, and carefully replaced the wax ring; and run a garden hose down the roof vent pipe. The clue was the big air bubbles in the bowl at the start of flushing. When I read this thread, I flushed, and no water at all came out the jet/siphon hole. I carefully probed it with a small screw diver and it was totally plugged, but hard small chunks of sand/cement/calcium(?) came loose. I then used a 14” plastic snake (used to remove drain hairballs) in the siphon hole and more granular junk came out – about 2tbs. Once I could get the snake all the way in, the commode was immediately able to FLUSH!!! I poured about ½ gallon of vinegar in the bowl to soak overnight and will use the plastic snake again tomorrow. My theory is this plug was from some kind of sand casting process during manufacturing.

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