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Situation: I was having combination arc fault circuit interrupters (CAFCI) installed in some 20 Amp and 15A branch circuits. In several cases , the CAFCI immediately tripped after installation, or tripped when an appliance was started. Devices were installed by licensed professional electrician.

Load center is Square D, Type QOC 30UF, Series S01, Type 1 enclosure. Single family residence.

The offending circuits are: 1. Branch circuit (20A) feeding a furnace induced draft blower motor (12 Amp full load). No other devices in circuit. CAFCI is Square D, QO120CAFIC (pigtail neutral) Device tripped immediately on installation and CB set to ON.

  1. Branch circuit (20A) feeding kitchen, with a refrigerator, convenience receptacles, and some CFL lighting. CAFCI is Square D, QO120CAFIC (pigtail neutral) Device tripped immediately on installation and CB set to ON.

  2. Branch circuit (20A) feeding kitchen dish washer and a disposal (Insinkerator). CAFCI trips when disposal is started. CAFCI is Square D, QO120CAFIC (pigtail neutral)

I have had no tripping problems on these circuits with the standard 20A 1-Pole CBs installed.

Q1: Will a AFCI cause the same incompatibility problem as the CAFCI?

Q2: Are CAFCI (and perhaps AFCIs) not compatible with circuits supplying appliance or HVAC motors? (is this a series arcing problem?)

NOTE: I have square D QO dual—function (CAFCI+GFCI) and CAFCI CBs installed on other branch circuits (20A & 15A) that include ceiling fans, range hood blower, microwave, desktop computers (fans), and a tankless gas water heater. These CBs do not trip when fans are started or the water heater gas ignition operates.

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  • Are the kitchen circuits "multi-wire branch circuits" where a shared neutral feeds two circuits? This is frequently done when you have lots of appliances and want two circuits at each receptacle (top/bottom). Shared neutrals are incompatible with GFCI and will result in an immediate trip.
    – BMitch ♦
    Jan 21, 2015 at 15:02
  • @BMitch -- to clarify -- just about all CAFCIs will trip on gross ground faults (>30mA for the C-H/Eaton units), which also makes them incompatible with shared neutrals. (CAFCI/GFCI combos differ from regular CAFCIs by following UL943 for their ground fault function.)
    – ThreePhaseEel
    Jan 21, 2015 at 23:43
  • Also -- what NEC is this under?
    – ThreePhaseEel
    Jan 21, 2015 at 23:44
  • Just a little tip: remove the CFLs...they are known to trip AFCIs
    – Kris
    Oct 9, 2015 at 11:56

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We can divide this problem into two cases; namely, "instant trip" circuits and "device trip" circuits. (There are also "any device trips" circuits, but you do not have one of those.)

Circuits that trip a CAFCI instantly when the breaker is installed and switched ON without loads connected/switched on.

This is a clear sign of a wiring flaw in the circuit: either there is a parallel arc present due to faulty wiring (rare), or more likely, a ground fault is present in the circuit, also due to faulty wiring or a mis-wired circuit.

Examples of the latter include:

  • landing the circuit neutral on the neutral bar instead of the breaker
  • cross-connecting the circuit neutral to another circuit's neutral
  • grounding the neutral at some point downstream of the main panel (this is most commonly the fault of bad subpanel installs, but can happen if someone does something wrong in a box as well)
  • trying to put a single pole breaker on a multi-wire branch circuit or shared neutral run

Helpfully, you can glean diagnostic information from your breakers when troubleshooting this. As per this Square-D instruction sheet,

  1. Turn the culprit AFCI OFF
  2. Hold in the TEST button (white button) on the culprit AFCI
  3. While holding in the TEST button, turn the culprit AFCI back on.
  4. If the culprit AFCI trips instantly, it is sensing a ground fault (such as a shared or miswired neutral, although damaged wiring cannot be ruled out). If it delays a couple of seconds and then trips, it is sensing an arc fault (damaged wiring).

Circuits that trip a CAFCI when a specific device is switched on or plugged in

This is indicative of a faulty device -- in your case, a garbage disposal. Some older disposals use brushed "universal" motors, and these can produce more severe arcs if the brushes are worn, which could trick the AFCI into tripping. Having the motor rebuilt with new brushes would fix it in this case.

If your garbage disposal is a newer model using an AC induction motor, though, it is likely simply either a victim of water ingress, or just plain faulty; in either case, it's time to replace the whole disposal.

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All of the examples you mention have motors, inductive loads that can trip GFCI breakers even without a wiring fault (not sure about the AFCI part).

In the kitchen, unplug the refrigerator and see if it trips. (As soon as you power up the refrigerator the motor probably starts since it's warm.)

Not sure what your local codes are, but these devices are better off on their own non-GFCI circuit, especially the fridge.

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Okay let me try this again. You stated that

"No other devices in circuit. CAFCI is Square D, QO120CAFIC (pigtail neutral) Device tripped immediately on installation and CB set to ON"

correct? When you say pigtail neutral do you mean that the neutral for the circuit, the neutral from the factory made breaker and a neutral wire connected to the neutral bar are wire nutted together ? If this is true, this type of breaker should not have pigtail neutrals. The neutral for the circuit should landed on the breaker, at the neutrals screw, and the neutral from the factory made breaker should land on the neutral/ground bar.enter image description here

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