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My house was built in 1893. I was recently doing some electrical work in the attic, adding some light fixtures. While doing that, I noticed that several of the upstairs outlets were wired with old, worn-looking metal clad wiring. Since I wanted to replace the outlets anyway for style reasons, I replaced this old wiring with new 14/2 NM w/G (Romex) wiring. I also used the same romex for the new lights and switches (fished into interior wall cavities).

In further exploration, I've found this house has a lot of metal-clad wiring. Not only in places where you might want some extra protection, like a long run alongside the chimney or in a crawlspace, but also in places that seem totally straightforward and safe, like first-floor outlets and light switches. And it seems relatively recent (within the last 30 years).

Is there something I'm missing that might require metal-clad wiring in this house?

Bonus question: what's a good way to recycle lots of old metal clad cabling? :)

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    Take the old wire to your local scrap yard, metal prices are currently high so you should get a nice bit of cash for it.
    – Tester101
    Commented Feb 1, 2011 at 17:17
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    It's possible whoever wired it up had a bunch left over from another project. Or needed some metal clad wiring, and it was cheaper to buy a whole spool than a bit of it and a spool of romex.
    – Grant
    Commented Apr 25, 2014 at 12:24
  • Around the time your house was built an electrical equipment manufacture in NY developed greenfield flexible conduit and then later while experimenting with pre-installing wire in it developed BX short for experimental “B” and NEC listed it in their 1903 code as Armored Cable. That doesn't mean that yours is that old, but I guess it could be. Some pristine (as possible) lengths of it could have a historic value for the right person.
    – Rand
    Commented Apr 25, 2014 at 17:34
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    Why do you want to get rid of this? I use MC cable for all new install in my house. It feels safer, it's much easier to run, and metallic boxes are much easier to secure well. The blue plastic carlon crap for NM wiring is pure junk. Sounds like the person who wired your house before knew what they were doing.
    – William S.
    Commented May 10, 2015 at 4:27

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The flexible armored wire you are seeing is often referred to as AC or BX cable. (BX was a brand name like Romex is for NM) Bx was used extensively prior to 1960ish and is still used today. There are no current code requirements that require this kind of cable in residential construction and it has almost all but been replaced with NM. As you have probably already figured out, BX uses different box connectors, and many of the device boxes you have in place were probably made to terminate BX cable.

Although it is perfectly legal to use, and actually quite safe, it is rarely used because of it's higher cost and relative difficulty to install and terminate. The only caution I would emphasize is the ground conductor in older BX. it was very common not to use a separate ground conductor when using BX, and often when there was a separate ground wire, it was a smaller AWG that the black/white/red current carrying conductors. this was never a problem if the BX armor was properly attached to the metal junction boxes and again properly connected at the panel, thus making a substantial grounding path.

As far as the bonus question. BX is heavy and probably brings a good price at the metal recycling brokers. A couple of years ago when junk metal was really hot, a good load would have been worth hundreds of dollars. It was a popular find for junk dealers and the target of theft.

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  • Since your house was built in 1893, i'm surprised you haven't found some old knob and tube wiring. Keep in mind, most houses didn't have electricity until after the 1900's. AC/BX was widespread by the 30's and 40's. Commented Jan 30, 2011 at 21:02
  • Great answer, shirlock! There are some remnants of knob & tube here, but no live k&t thankfully. I also discovered remnant pipes for gas lights, also disconnected, in the attic. Commented Jan 31, 2011 at 1:40
  • As for why, it could be that the person who wired up the house had access to it - either "free", or at low cost.
    – chris
    Commented Jan 31, 2011 at 19:24
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    In Chicago they are still stinging from the cow fire, or the greenlee lobby has a lot of influence. Way above NEC standards. Commented Jan 31, 2011 at 23:55
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    Any way to distinguish between armored cable, metal-clad cable, and flexible metallic conduit after it's been installed? Commented Nov 2, 2012 at 21:16
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While there may well be "no codes requiring it in residential", as is often pointed out, exceeding codes is OK.

Is "modern" romex better - not if you ever have mice. If the wiring is not deteriorating, there's no good reason to replace it, and plenty of good reasons to leave it alone.

Why so much - it was probably what was common when the house was wired or re-wired. If it's really less than 30 years old, (may just be in better shape than you expect for its age) perhaps the house was rewired by someone who had had a house fire from mice chewing on plastic insulated wires. Most 1893 houses won't have modern fireblocking, and can't really afford a fire in the walls...

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For the bonus question, I just remembered something someone told me not that long ago. He said a recycle company told him the scrap value of steel sheathed AC is based on the current value of steel. If that's true for most or all of them, it wouldn't be worth much unless you removed the copper and recycled it separately.

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I am an inspector for a municipality in Cook County. I have a Chicago electrical license which is the gold standard around here since there is no state license to be had. I've been an electrician for 20 years. At no time during those years has the City of Chicago ever allowed NM cable to be used. Recently, Chicago adopted the 2017 NEC and then amended it to suit their needs. They amended out the requirement for Arc Fault protection as long as the electrical system is all metal piping or MC cable w/ metal boxes. In my municipality we also do not allow NM/Romex. I agree w/ Eric above on both of his stated reasons for this but mainly it's to keep clueless people from doing electrical work. You'd have to drive an hour or more from Chicago to find a place that allows the installation of NM cable.

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  • I live in Cook County, have they expanded they use of AC to 25 feet for remodel exemptions?
    – Leroy105
    Commented Mar 7, 2020 at 2:15
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If the wire you have discovered was smooth and not knobby (wound) then it is likely what was called flex or "Greenfield" (after the man the designed it) cable, widely used in the 1920-1940 era. The metal casing was actually used for grounding.

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If you live in the Chicago area, "Romex" or nonmetallic cable has never been permitted. I'm not sure, but there might be other areas in the country that have the same requirement. As an electrician I wired my entire house in conduit and where I was fishing in existing walls, Flexible conduit(Greenfield).

For openers if you need to split up or add circuits at a later date you can fish additional wires through the conduit without having to open up walls. A second plus is the fact that rodents can't chew through metal conduit. Rodents DO in fact chew through wiring insulation that could either lead to circuit failure or fires.

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  • "in the Chicago area, 'Romex' or nonmetallic cable has never been permitted", really? please cite a source or code reference. i was involved in 2 remodels in northern Cook county in 1989 and 2005 that were both complete rip and replace of the electrical systems, and both used NM/Romex.
    – longneck
    Commented Apr 25, 2014 at 12:25
  • Then the codes may have been relaxed in the 80's Look at ANY house wired in Chicago before that and you will NOT find anything but Conduit or flex.
    – Eric Long
    Commented Apr 25, 2014 at 18:52
  • After Checking with my fellow electrician friends in Skokie Ill. It is STILL code in Chicago as well as many communities to only allow conduit or other metallic clad methods. There are two popular sets of rumors floating around as to why. O ne story says it is still fear from the great Chicago Fire and the other says a strong union influence as conduit is more labor intensive. Either way ou will find very few good electricians who will dispute the fact that metallic clad wiring (Especially conduit) is a far safer and superior wiring method.
    – Eric Long
    Commented Apr 25, 2014 at 19:09
  • The completely empty tin cans of tomato sauce I discovered in my pantry some months ago (their contents gleefully liberated and consumed by some severely overachieving rodents) make me wonder just how much "can't" there really is, in that common wisdom that rodents can't chew through conduit. (Yeah, conduit is significantly thicker and stronger than canning tin, but one of the benefits of metal food tins was also supposed to be protection from gnawing teeth... #MyWellFedMiceBegToDiffer)
    – FeRD
    Commented Apr 22, 2022 at 23:56

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