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I am trying to install a new Honeywell touchscreen WIFI thermostat and need to add a C wire to my terminal inside the furnace (using the help found at How can I add a "C" wire to my thermostat?). BUT.. I have a white wire that runs from the A/C unit outside that is connected to the C terminal on the furnace. If I run an 18/5 wire from the terminal to the thermostat, will this cause a problem or a short? I'm completely lost as to why there is a C wire running from the terminal outside to the A/C relay. I do not want to move the green wire as Honeywell suggests and lose the power to operate my blower manually.Ancient Furnace Terminal Wiring

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Terminals R and C are a 24V AC power supply, from a transformer on the control board in the furnace.

The control board also has relays: one is for the fan, one is for heat. One side of the coils of these relays are connected to the G and W terminals respectively, and the other side is connected to C (one side of that 24V AC power).

Your thermostat is essentially a switch that connects the other side of the 24V AC power -- R -- to the other side of the relay coil (G and/or W, depending on fan-only or heat).

The air conditioner relay works the same way, but it's not on board the control board obviously. So the white wire on C goes to one side of the relay, and the red wire on Y goes to the other side. When the thermostat calls for A/C (by connecting R and Y) it completes the circuit and supplies 24V AC to the A/C relay coil (which then switches on the 240VAC main power to the compressor).


TL;DR: You are safe to use the C terminal despite the fact that the air conditioning relay is also connected to it, just like the other on-board relays are also connected to C.

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There should be no problem connecting the C wire from your thermostat to the C terminal in the furnace. Take a look at this diagram, which is a rough approximation of your system.

HVAC wiring

Notice the cable going to the condensing unit has a red wire connected to the Y terminal in the furnace, and a white wire attached to the C terminal. When the thermostat calls for COOL, it does so by energizing the Y terminal (connecting R to Y). This provides power to the coil of the contactor, which allows it to close the contacts and turn the condensing unit on. The other side of the contactor coil is connected to the C terminal, as to provide a complete circuit.

Complete circuit

You'll notice in the first image that two relays in the furnace, the thermostat, and the contactor coil all connect to the same leg of the transformer. This is because the thermostat basically works like a switch, connecting the R wire to the C wire through control circuitry. Anything that needs 24VAC power, will be connected to both legs of the transformer.

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Colors of the wires is misleading, in reality there are but 2 sides or legs of 24 volt power, The "Hot leg" Red, and the "Neutral leg" Common. Common is called this because every 24 volt circuit terminates upon it to complete its circuit.

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If you don't want to run a fifth wire (which, in our case would have been a real pain since the basement has a finished ceiling), and you don't mind losing the "Fan Run" feature, then jumper the yellow/red and the green/green wires together at the central air/heat circuit card, and move the green wire going to the thermostat from that circuit card to the C terminal on that circuit card, and then connect the green wire at the thermostat to the C terminal, and then you will have power for the thermostat. Instant common.

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The other pictures and schematics are excellent. The "C" wire is connected to Chassis ground, also known as 24V Common. See picture, above. In my system, a blue wire runs from the 24V Common to the thermostat but was unused at the old thermostat. I connected it to the "C" terminal of the new thermostat. If you have to run a new wire, and the PC board has no "C" terminal (very old PC board), you can connect one end of the new wire to any metal part of the blower assembly (chassis) and run the new wire to the "C" terminal in the new thermostat. In addition, the chassis of the blower assembly and PC board SHOULD be connected to earth ground via the AC power cable. If so, and you CANNOT run a new wire, you can find the nearest earth ground to the thermostat and connect the "C" terminal of the thermostat to earth ground. You won't lose your fan control wire. All the other wires in the thermostat remain the same from old to new.

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