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A roofing company mistakenly cut a 2 foot section out of a roof joist, on my home. I'm seeking a reference to what would constitute a proper repair, preferably a prescriptive code or a load table. I am aware of the American Wood Council tables, but that's for uncut modern lumber and at this point I have neither.

This rafter spanned 14 feet with a mid span support. The roof is flat, with 2x4 rafters at 24 inch on center, topped with 1x6 boards, all nailed. This is all true dimension rough cut Douglas Fir: good solid stuff.

One end of the cut rafter buts against a brick chimney. The house was built in 1938 and is in an earthquake zone (Hayward Fault).

The roofer said nothing but screwed some plywood on top to cover the gap.

Update 1: The roofer added a patch. The gap is almost at the center beam. The patch overlap is 9 inches on the right side, and about 4 inches on the left. On the left both new and patched rafters straddle the center beam.

The only access is through a 14 inch hole below.

roofer mistake

Update 2:

After consulting with a structural engineer (who wanted 12+ inches of overlap), we ended up compromising a bit. A filler piece will take compressive load when the chimney slams into the house in a quake:

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    I don't think that your repair is sufficient; I don't think you have enough strength under compression nor do I think that your fastening is enough. I agree with the structural engineer; you want at least 12" of overlap. If you can't get that, then I want to see the old 2x4 attached to the new one by a couple of 3/8 bolts at both ends.
    – Eric Gunnerson
    Nov 24 '13 at 3:36
  • It's 9 inches of overlap. With everyone guessing, not presenting test results, it was hard to argue for more from the roofers. Sure looks janky. And the roofer ignored the instructions to predrill holes in the 75 year old lumber: several of the stitch plate screws split the wood. @EricGunnerson
    – Bryce
    Nov 24 '13 at 8:57
  • There aren't span tables or anything for public consumption for these types of things, that I know of. This is for an engineer. I have had engineer spec wood splices and I have never seen less than 12" overlap, even where the main load is compression. This looks like a terrible hack job... Are they at least structural screws?
    – ryanwinchester
    Dec 25 '13 at 18:16
  • They are not structural screws. @decker Hack job is right.
    – Bryce
    Dec 26 '13 at 5:44
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There is no mention where the cut out is but this should take care of it in any respect, as long as the mid span support is a series of posts and not a purlin... Can you get a 2X6 in there that will give close to a full span? if the material is clean or can be scraped clean, a healthy bead of construction adhesive zig-zagged on the face of the old 2X and screw the 2X6 starting 4 inches from the ends with a pair of screws and 12+/- inches apart in the remainder in pairs also. Use 3 inch drywall screws or 2 3/4 inch SDS screws through the 2X6 into the 2X4. Make sure the screws draw tight the material, pilot if needed with a 3/16" bit.

If you have a mid span support that goes to good bearing through to the foundation, you can use a shorter repair joist, but a single joist that goes over multiple spans is stronger than a single span joist.

FWIW, it looks like a 2X4 will suffice from what I seen the table at page 396 of the 2012 building code (table R802.5.1).

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  • The room is 14' x 16'. A 3x6 center beam cantilevers out 8 feet from an adjacent room, to support this half o the roof. The ceiling is separately supported from both ends. I have a 14 inch hole, from below, from which to work (a long joist won't fit). ---- Are there published tables for this type of repair work?
    – Bryce
    Nov 19 '13 at 4:20
  • Save the pic and open it up, you should be able to zoom in so it is readable
    – Jack
    Nov 20 '13 at 2:27
  • The image is only 317 pixels wide, and unreadabe. For future searches could you also quote the page & section of the IRC?
    – Bryce
    Nov 20 '13 at 2:34
  • Bummer it started as a 1.7 meg file
    – Jack
    Nov 20 '13 at 3:14
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    I can assure you this old growth 2x4 lumber is not just different in size. It is about twice as dense has twice as many rings. @auuja Correct: drywall screws are quite weak in shear (they are too brittle).
    – Bryce
    Nov 23 '13 at 17:54
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After asking here, on the Journal of Light Construction, and consulting with a structural engineer, I was unable to find an answer to the question. Everyone just guesses when it comes to wood repair, there are no published tables for joints or splices. If you have a better answer please post it.

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