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1970s subfloor basement construction

I'm currently redoing my basement and after removing the carpet I come across particle board nailed on top of 1.5 x 2.5 wood batons that are screwed into the concrete slab.

To redo the floors:

I would remove the particle board regardless because the previous owner spilt water and the particle board just soaked it up and has become lumpy on certain spots.

Afterwards I’m not too sure:

  1. Can I screw OSB directly to the batons and then put laminate on top?

  2. Do I need to remove the 1.5x2.5 wood batons and then put plastic underlayment + OSB?

  3. Can I tile on the concrete slab after installing Ditra or do I need to put underlayment + OSB + Ditra then tile.

House: 1970s construction Geography Eastern Canada 4 seasons

Thanks!

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Floor construction

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  • The little bit of slab shown does not look flat enough for hard type(tile, laminate) flooring placed on top of it. The slab does look very dry and no sign of moisture/rot on the wood.
    – crip659
    Dec 17, 2023 at 13:45
  • Not sure I agree with that assessment, @crip659 - looks quite flat with some minor surface defects that thinset would have no issues with to me.
    – Ecnerwal
    Dec 17, 2023 at 14:23

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If the lumber on the floor is not rotten after 50 years, no need to remove it.

What you might well want to do is fill in between it with 1.5" insulation board, because the odds that there's insulation under the floor 50 years ago are slim, and it's likely to be uncomfortably cool. That would also lean against tiling directly on it, unless you are quite sure you don't mind the floor being cool (good in summer, perhaps, if it doesn't actually condense on it - otherwise not so nice, generally.)

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    @Runnye, please take the tour for the proper way of saying "thanks".
    – FreeMan
    Jan 16 at 16:10
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Around here (Canada may be different) that would require either pressure treated lumber against the concrete, or sill gasket beneath the "batons." Maybe that is PT, and it just looks like regular lumber because it's 50 years old. But yes, as long as it's flat, you should be able to replace the particle board with 3/4"(ish) OSB.

Now, you mention laminate and tile. If there's no moisture coming up through the slab (and there wouldn't be any moisture from curing after 50 years), you could simply put your laminate and/or tile right on the slab. But if you have moisture (from groundwater), that's a different story.

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    For tile, some of the batons look like they can use some shims to make them solid on the cement. One gap might give the floor a bouncy feeling, usually bad for tiles.
    – crip659
    Dec 17, 2023 at 13:49
  • Agree with Crip659. No signs of moisture or rot, so no need to replace the batons. (if concerned use a sil seal or RedGard and remount) Use a laser to ensure they are flat. Shim before laying OSB. Consider glue and staple for osb to avoid squeaks.
    – RG Hughes
    Dec 17, 2023 at 14:17

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