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This model was likely common 25 years ago, in Europe (France). I don't know the brand and cannot find any reference based on pictures.

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The plastic case is fully transparent, no levers, only a slat. The top of the case is trapezoid. I'm not sure of the markings, perhaps 600M IDEAL 85.


I've two questions for someone who already saw this beast:

  • What are the brand, and model if possible.
  • How do you properly unplug the wires? (I've seen advice to just turn the wire until it is loose...)
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    If not short of wire, a pair of wire cutters will remove the wires fast, with the power off. There might be a tiny slot/opening to push a tool/tiny screwdriver in, to release the wire/s. Somethings do have a bad design when it comes to repairs or a use once only design. Have a machine with one bolt/nut in a bad place to undo. Most times it is faster to use a torch to cut the nut off.
    – crip659
    Sep 23 at 17:45
  • @crip659: Thanks. I cannot check at the moment, but I remember seeing a tiny hole next to the inputs for the wires. Cutting the wires is not possible as I need to understand the cause of a voltage leakage, and I'll likely have to connect/unconnected several times different portions. After it is repaired, I plan to change the connectors for something reusable.
    – mins
    Sep 23 at 17:58
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    I would have reusable ones handy in case those are single use. We have push in connectors on outlets/switches in the US, but on the cheaper ones they are/should only be used once. Good electricians don;t like them, unless being paid to change the wires to the screws.
    – crip659
    Sep 23 at 18:56
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    The brand is all-but-certainly Ideal®, based on the marking, and the fact that Ideal is a maker of wire connection products including some push-in wire connectors; but I have no idea exactly what they commonly sold in France 25 years ago. I preferred wire-nuts (Marrettes) which they also make to these things when the version of these things they sold here was common in the USA.
    – Ecnerwal
    Sep 23 at 19:48

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That appears to be an early version of the product Ideal® currently calls In-Sure Push In (in English, anyway) and the current 88/87 model numbers suggest that 85 is a plausible model number. Or perhaps 35, given the current 33, 34 & 39.

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600M is probably a misreading of the V for M in the 600Volt rating.

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Image Source: https://www.idealind.com/us/en/shop/product-type/connectors/push-on.html no endorsement implied. Possibly the France version of their site has the exact match, or possibly the old ones are no longer made in exactly that style/model number. The 34 instructions for wire removal are twist and pull, and not to re-use on stranded wire at all, and to re-strip solid wire, so moving immediately to a "removable-without-damage" lever type would be advisable rather than reusing these. The 88 instructions don't mention removal at all.

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  • Thanks for all the useful details. My model seems older than the Internet in the end. You must be right for 600V.
    – mins
    Sep 23 at 22:29
  • The internet is fairly old, (quite a bit more than 25 years) the stuff that companies show on their websites, on the other hand, has a very sort expiration time, in many/most cases.
    – Ecnerwal
    Sep 23 at 22:36

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