# What kind of screw is this from a bar stool?

I have a barstool that has lost several examples of the screw pictured below, and I do not have calipers to measure it precisely. The screw is pictured atop a U.S. quarter coin.

Since the condition of the screw is imperfect, I should mention that I think this is an example of an internal hex screw (I am new to this nomenclature).

The barstool from which this originated is very similar in appearance to this example sold by Lowes and this example featured on the Bed Bath & Beyond website.

EDIT 2023.09.06: I must thank everybody for the interest and advice and also apologize for the poor quality of the pictures I posted.

I know that I needn't stick to the exact same type of screw, but I thought that some people might still be curious what it is. I found some calipers at work, and the following (not-to-scale) diagram shows my measurements to three significant digits.

I did some novice-level research (search engine), and judging by examples I found, I suspect the following describe some qualitative features.

• Hex socket
• Black oxide finish
Imperial measurement Equivalent metric measurement (to 3 significant digits)
0.432 in 11.0 mm
0.121 in 3.07 mm
0.454 in 11.5 mm
0.237 in 6.02 mm

Based on the finish and the examples I found online, I suspect that the 6.02 mm measurement should be interpreted as 6 mm and that this is an M6 screw. Combining this with what I saw available online, I suspect that this is an M6 x 12 mm screw.

• I don't know if anyone is going to try to figure out the screw size from the photos, but for what it's worth, if someone were to try to do that, it would be much easier if both the leftmost point and the rightmost point on the quarter were visible in the photo. In the first photo and the third photo, the rightmost point is visible but the leftmost point is not, which means it would be rather difficult to try to use the quarter to determine the scale of the photo. Commented Sep 5, 2023 at 12:05
• @TannerSwett it's somewhat trivial to continue the ellipse of the quarter outside the bounds of the photo. Commented Sep 5, 2023 at 22:02
• Just FYI, the weight capacity of the bar stools to which you linked is only 200lbs. I don't know how they define "weight capacity", but when one initially sits on a chair, the initial load is substantially greater than one's body weight. Either way, I thought you might like to know before investing any time/effort working on them. Commented Sep 6, 2023 at 8:43
• Get yourself a bunch of Allen keys - one of them will fit the bolt, allowing you to find the size of driver key. Won't help you with the pitch/diameter of threads, though. Commented Sep 6, 2023 at 13:45
• There are ~330 M Americans, and the world population is ~8 B, so only 4.2 % of the world has US currency. Better to photograph with a ruler in the image whereever possible. Ideally ruler should be in the same plane as the item too because parallax. Commented Sep 6, 2023 at 19:15

The type of drive (hex socket, here) does not matter too much. What matters is:

1. That this is a machine screw, not a wood screw. (Machine screws generally have blunt ends and fine threads; wood screws generally have pointy ends and widely spaced threads.)
2. The exact diameter of the threads.
4. That the head has a shoulder, not a cone intended to fit into a countersink hole.
5. The length (doesn't have to be perfect, but it should not be so short it doesn't engage, and not so long it hits something inside the hole before it tightens down what it's supposed to).

Unfortunately, it's basically impossible to get a good match on threads by eyeballing a photograph. Instead, you'll need to go to your nearest hardware store, and bring the screw.

1. They will likely have a thread checker, where you can screw your screw into a variety of holes and see which one it fits. Make sure to try both the metric and SAE/USA/inch sets. If it goes in just a little bit and stops then that's not a match — a properly matching screw should be easy to turn for many revolutions.
2. If you can find other loose screws to try, then just press this one up against another, side-by-side — feel the two to see if they are the same diameter, and look for an even zigzag rather than a moiré pattern if they are the same pitch.
3. The staff will almost certainly be happy to help you find a match.

It's quite likely that you won't get a brown screw, and it might not be a hex socket screw — but that won't matter except for appearance.

• Perfect answer. I discarded my own when I saw yours. The one part I'll add: A traditional hardware store is best - you hand them the screw and they come back two minutes later with the match. At Home Depot/Lowes/etc. you'll more likely have to spend 15 minutes searching the screw/bolt/etc. aisle to find the match. Commented Sep 5, 2023 at 3:20
• If you find a match, but noticed that the head doesn't match, might as well just change them all so you don't need multiple tools for the same stool. If you don't remove these screws regularly, you might want to buy a bottle of thread-lock (or whatever it is called) to keep them in and not lose them again. Commented Sep 5, 2023 at 3:44
• It's almost certainly shiny black rather than brown, and the white balance is off in the photos. That's a low head type, which will make it harder to find. A button head would be a better substitute than a normal cap head. Screws are far cheaper if you buy a bagful, so I'd swap out the lot (probably for stainless) Commented Sep 5, 2023 at 7:52
• @Thomas Do you think somebody asking a question like this is going to have the tools or skill to cut a screw to length? Commented Sep 5, 2023 at 12:23
• If it's just a bit too long, a washer can sometimes help - it's a lot easier than cutting a screw. Commented Sep 5, 2023 at 16:25

So I imported your graphic into a CAD program and superimposed some lines which I measured using .955" as the diameter of a quarter. Scaling in this way, I come up with .256" on the screw diameter. Using the other photo and scaling off the length, I get .515 long. I counted 9-10 threads in the 1/2", and knowing that 1/4" Unified National threads come in 20 and 28 threads per inch, I think it's the former.

I don't think it's metric because my crude scaling indicates that it would be funky for metric: about 6.5mm x 13mm long x (.7 = odd pitch for metric).

So bottom line is, if it's not metric...your screw is likely: 1/4-20 UNC X 1/5 long (Button Head).

• 95% of the time in the US, if it isn't metric then it's quarter twenty. Commented Sep 8, 2023 at 0:40

A super crude photogrammetry challenge? Sure, I'll play.

Measure from the underside of the shoulder to the end of the bolt. That should be pretty close to 9mm. At which point I think you have a M6x1.0mm metric screw.

Diameter will be hard to measure properly without tools, but pitch is easier. You can check my result against a metric ruler by seeing if the peaks on the thread line up with the mm marks on a ruler almost perfectly.

• Since it's sitting on a US quarter, it's more likely a UTS 1/4"-28.
– Mark
Commented Sep 5, 2023 at 21:41
• Just because the photo was likely taken in the US? I don't think that would say much - many fasteners here are metric too. I wish they all were, but ... Commented Sep 5, 2023 at 22:04
• Where the bar stool is perhaps located is irrelevant. It's where it was manufactured that matters most. Most of the planet uses metric, and has for decades. Commented Sep 6, 2023 at 8:37