My home is in Northern Colorado, built in 1997, bi-level with an unfinished "basement" that is entirely above grade, with a rough-in bathroom and a small open space that I want to turn into an office area. Around the outside edge of my foundation, I have this small concrete footer that is consistently 5.5" tall and ranges from 4 3/8" to 4 5/8" wide. Here's a diagram of the bathroom and a couple pictures of what I'm dealing with, but you can see a full gallery of pictures & captions of my bathroom here on imgur for a little more context or a larger view of the situation.

Diagram of rough-in basement Picture of corner of rough-in bathroom area, showing concrete footers

It's been surprisingly tough to find information on handling these. The only real information I've found on handling them was here on StackExchange, where it was covered with a short run of MDF in an office/living area, rather than a bathroom. This created something of a shelf along the edge of the room, and while you could potentially make that work with a vanity (that user did notch a cabinet to be installed against the wall, on top of that shelf), that's not really what you're going to want around a shower area or behind a bulkhead to conceal the waste stacks.

My tentative plan is to frame on top of the concrete as normal using a pressure treated base plate and extend the wall all the way to the ceiling (at least in the bathrooms - in the office area, I'll do a kneewall to the height of the window). If I do this, should I leave a slight gap between the exterior frame and the new interior frame? That seems worthwhile to account for any expansion/contraction.

For the vertical portion of the footer (5 1/2"), the bottom 1" will be concealed by DriCore subfloor or similar product, installed with a slight gap between the subfloor and the footer. For the remaining 4 1/2" (minus flooring), would it be adequate to hang the drywall against the concrete and the framing, using vapor barrier between the drywall and the concrete and maintaining a slight gap between the bottom edge of the drywall and the floor to make sure any moisture can evaporate out? Or do I need to build further inwards from that footer (shrinking the room) to put a more substantial gap between the drywall and that concrete footer?

Look forward to hearing any feedback that anyone has on this project.

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I have a higher stubwall in the partial underground on on a side basement in our house built in the late 70s and recently redid the wall as we had a drain tile installed. I only have the old frame and picture of adding XPS to reduce the amount of moisture in the basement halfway though the install. https://imgur.com/a/DPIlZLA

I think your plans are solid, you don't want regular drywall with direct contact with cement as it will wick moisture and cause mold (why you see it always have a gap where critters like to come through and why foam backer rod is great to keep them from coming in but often skipped in the builder special. I do see some efflorescence (white salt marks) so there is moisture moving and evaporating in the room I think. Do use a piece of plastic taped to the floor to see if water is coming in. If its gets wet the vapor barrier between the drywall and concrete is not the right solution. positive water pressure is a huge reason why a lot of epoxy floors fail because the water causes delamination.

The only things I see would be to make sure you keep the moisture barrier intact. There are a couple spots of grey insulation where maybe air is getting out in the cold months and condensing. x

  • Plastic-bag-on-floor-test doesn't show any moisture, and we've never had any issues either. I think the efflorescence there is from an unfortunate incident when we moved in and the kitchen (right above the white) was leaking without our knowledge. No damage to the insulation either. Glad to hear I'm on the right track, only thing I'm concerned about is if the footer isn't plumb vertical, if that doesn't complicate the drywall there. Foam backer rod isn't a bad idea there though.
    – WJTownsend
    Aug 6, 2023 at 20:03

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