I'm trying to change out an old ceiling fan with a newer light only LED light, but I'm having trouble with the wiring.

Here is a picture of the switch box: enter image description here

And here is a picture of the ceiling box: enter image description here

Black A is always hot with the breaker on. With nothing connected in the light box (like in the picture), the switch is dead. Red/whitr/black c are also dead with everything in the picture. And that's pretty all I got. Ive tried a couple if things but everything Ive Tried results in either no power to other things or power to red/white/black c always hot weither or not the switch is off or on.

  • What is the Poo A and Poo B, is it neutral or ground.
    – Ruskes
    Jun 25 at 22:28
  • Do you have separate switch somewhere for the old Fan, and separate for the light.
    – Ruskes
    Jun 25 at 22:32
  • @knowitall, yeah I think so. And that is the only switch. It controlled the light and the fan before.
    – Ghostship
    Jun 25 at 22:33
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    Why are the wires all spread out like that? How were they hooked up before? Jun 26 at 4:51
  • There are two black wires under a single screw on the switch. There is a 99.999% chance that this is a code violation. Those two black wires should be connected together (with a 3rd, 6" piece of black wire) under a wire nut (similar to what holds the 2 white wires together), then the single 6" piece of black wire should go under that screw.
    – FreeMan
    Jul 7 at 14:19

2 Answers 2


Connect black A, black B and black C together. Connect Poo A, Poo B and the other white wire together. Poo A and Poo B are really old discolored white or neutral wires. You've now energized the hot going into the switch box and a neutral and also energized that non working outlet. Take the black wire from your new light and hook it up to the red wire and the white wire from your fixture to the group of white wire. The double black connection to the switch isn't allowed and you should pigtail them to a single piece of wire and connect that to the switch. There doesn't seem to be a ground wire going up to the switch.

  • What about Black C
    – Ruskes
    Jun 25 at 23:05
  • Sorry, but still nothing. The red/white/black c are all dead with the switch off or on. Ill edit that in to my post.
    – Ghostship
    Jun 25 at 23:34
  • @Ghostship make sure all breakers are on and test at the switch.
    – JACK
    Jun 25 at 23:50
  • @JACK with nothing connected in the light bix (like in the picture), the switch is dead.
    – Ghostship
    Jun 26 at 0:00
  • Were there any other fixtures/outlets without power when every thing was disconnected?
    – JACK
    Jun 26 at 0:01

The solution ended being connection all 3 black wires to together. All 3 white(Poo = White) together plus the white from the new light fixture, then connection the red to the black from the fixture.

  • So my answer was correct.
    – JACK
    Jul 7 at 0:16
  • This is already listed as an answer.
    – JACK
    Jul 7 at 0:19
  • Yup, this is exactly what @JACK said in his answer.
    – FreeMan
    Jul 7 at 14:21

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