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I am splicing a PVC pipe identical to the pipe on the left of the image. I will insert 3 inches and use a pair of joints like the one that appears on the right of the image.

Hence I'm guessing it's ideal if I splice using the exact same pipe, the one on the left.

But during an experimental dry run before the actual cut+splicing, the pipe (on the left) and the joint (on the right) were already quite fused. There was no cement in sight, and I sanded to bevel, and wiped with a rag before insertion. They were so fused it took a pair of pipe pliers to separate them. With the actual pipe, I won't have the luxury of twisting with pliers to undo the dry run.

hard PVC, soft PVC, and a joint

This makes me wonder whether it would be alright to use the soft pipe in the middle of the image for splicing. This setup is under the sun 365 days a year, but all three are, I presume, appropriate for full-on weather exposure.

Questions:

  1. Can I use the pipe in the center to splice a pipe that looks like the one on the left (using a pair of the joints on the right)?
  2. I am still not sure whether I'll need 3 or 3.25 or 3.5 inches, and so I'd really like to do a dry run. What can I do to make separating a dry run easier?
  3. In the past I've skipped using the PVC primer and went straight for the PVC cement. The result is solid. Does using a primer soften PVC so much to make it easier to push the two sides harder and make sure they have entered all the way?
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  • Depending on the layout/configuration, you may want or need an expansion joint, since the sun goes away 365 nights per year, and things normally get cooler and shrink then.
    – Ecnerwal
    May 23 at 2:46
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    Is there a reason you're using electrical conduit as plumbing pipe? The listing issues go both ways on this one... May 23 at 4:18
  • @ThreePhaseEel Ok.. maybe this is the issue then. I know that the pipe in the middle of the picture and the fitting on the right are for plumbing. The one on the left is from existing stock that looks identical to common plumbing pipes. How did you determine that the PVC on the left of the figure is meant for electrical work, not for plumbing? Do these inscriptions identify it as such?
    – Sam
    May 23 at 5:28
  • The pipe looks gray in your picture- that would be electric conduit- is it actually white schedule 40 PVC meant for water lines ?
    – Kyle
    May 23 at 6:54
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    Use WHITE PVC plumbing pipe for plumbing applications, NOT grey PVC designed for electrical applications. i.e. don't use any of this for moving water.
    – FreeMan
    May 23 at 11:27

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You cannot mix the schedule 40 PVC (rigid) and the flexible conduit legally. You would need different fittings to adapt the different pipes as mentioned in the comment by @Ecnerwal.

A dry run is not necessary- for the very reason you experienced. If you push that coupling dry all the way onto the pipe it will be very difficult to get it off. The pipe glue actually acts as a lubricant so the fittings slide on the pipe easily (but only for a short time- the glue sets fast).

Typically this is done by measuring the needed piece of pipe. I can't tell what size your conduit is, but, you can measure from pipe to pipe and subtract about 1/4" for each end (the repair piece of conduit will not fully reach the existing pipe because of the stop inside the coupling). If anything, cut it a bit short- conduit is very forgiving.

Often with conduit priming is not necessary. I would say it depends on what type of glue you are using. If it is regular clear PVC cement then you would be better to prime it- priming will give a better bond.

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  • "pipe glue actually acts as a lubricant" Perfect. Thank you.
    – Sam
    May 23 at 4:05
  • Does using a primer enhance the lubricant effect? Is primer+cement better at lubricating than cement alone? Would pouring hot water on both parts before welding soften them, even a little, to make the insertion easier?
    – Sam
    May 23 at 4:09
  • Primer will make negligible difference in it's slide-ablility. I have never used hot water to soften the pipe. If you don't have the room to flex between your 2 existing pipes to fit the couplings then you have another issue all together. Just saw your other comment- you have PVC conduit not water pipe- conduit is not really rated for water- maybe you are OK with the minimal pressure you have but, it is not designed to be used under pressure.
    – Kyle
    May 23 at 6:51

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