# What size chain is typically used when hanging a porch swing?

What size chain is typically used when hanging a porch swing?

A standard double loop chain is often used for porch swings.

Assuming three hefty occupants (~250 lbs each) and a 100 lb swing, you're up to a load of 850 lbs. If you use 4 lengths of chain to connect the swing, that's 212.5 lbs per chain. So you need at least 2/0 chain, which is rated to a working load of 255 lbs and an UTS of 1020 lbs.

EDIT: If you're a nerd/engineer like me, you can get more technical and take into account angle of the chains from vertical and normal acceleration from swinging. Then your equation comes to:

``````4*T*cos(Θ)-m*g=m*a where a=v^2/(l*cos(Θ))
``````

or

``````T=m*((v^2/(l*cos(Θ)))+g)/(4*cos(Θ))
``````

where

``````T is the tension per chain length using a total of 4 chains,
m is the total mass of the system,
a is normal acceleration,
l is the chain length,
v is maximum horizontal velocity you'll be reaching, and
Θ is the angle of the chains from the vertical
``````

which will be a bit more than 255 lbs if you're swinging very fast, or have very short chains or a very wide swing. In that case, you may want to go with 3/0 chain.

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• ...and don't forget to make sure your units are consistent! :) – Doresoom Oct 25 '10 at 19:34
• How do you account for the additional force of someone sitting down suddenly, i.e., dropping into the seat? – Vebjorn Ljosa Oct 25 '10 at 19:40
• Oooh, good point @Vebjorn. Well, the swing should be stationary at that point, so v=0 cancels out, but you've got an extra F*deltaT impulse. Or you could calculate the energy from the initial height of the person sitting, to the final height (descent arrested completely) and calculate the amount the chains deflected. I'd have to have more material properties of the chains to figure that out. I guess I could assume plain old steel and use the wire diameters for the cross section... but if I do much more work on this, I'll have to ask my boss for a charge code ;) – Doresoom Oct 25 '10 at 19:43

Pick out the strongest chain that's in your budget and matches your desired aesthetic, then make sure it's no weaker than Doresoom's answer recommends. There's no reason to skimp on vertical supports. Maybe four 300 pound guys are all going to sit down at the same time one day.