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I am going to be pulling some Triplex 4/0 4/0 2/0 though 2 1/2" conduit. Do you think I should pull it before putting it in the trench to make it easier? The trench is pretty much straight, with slight curve in beginning and end.

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Assemble and bury the conduit. THEN pull wire.

You have to fully assemble the conduit, have it inspected if your inspector requires that, backfill it and - important - tamp it, especially the corners. All BEFORE you start pulling any wires into it.

First-time conduit novices always think it will be "easier" to lay all the wire out and thread the conduit sticks over the wire. I do a ton of conduit, and that doesn't sound "easier" at all, it sounds like the most difficult possible way to do it! It really works much better to pull! Of course, if that skill isn't in your repertoire yet, I can understand that -- I myself am terrified of drywall work.

What tends to coexist with the "assemble the conduit around the wires" way of thinking, is also a dastardly plan to build conduit in a way it would be impossible to pull. For instance, using a plumbing elbow instead of a proper sweep, facing the LB against the wall so the access door can't be opened later, etc. That's not allowed, and realistically, you'll hate yourself later if you do it.

Now, if you are using cable that is certified to be used alone (in walls or underground), then it is allowed to use conduit selectively, solely as a damage shield to protect certain segments of the cable run. An example is when you do direct burial, and you are required to use a stick and a sweep of conduit simply to protect the wires on the "Stub-up". In that case yeah, you thread conduit over cable, but it's only a stick or two. If you have used conduit like that before, then I can understand that thinking. And if you want to do that, then simply trench to 26" instead of 21" and just do direct burial. Easy peasy. (however you will never be able to change or upgrade the wire, and that may be a huge problem because...)

Generally, when running conduit the entire route, you want to run THWN or XHHW individual wires. Cables are much stiffer (the same way a ream of copier paper is stiff until you take the wrapper off, then, it's a noodle). This also lets you select exactly the sizes you want, as selection is better in individual wires.

Why are you running triplex anyway?

In almost all cases, triplex is the wrong stuff. Triplex is only allowed between the weatherhead, through the meter, and to the very first breaker or disconnect. Beyond that, everything must be quadplex - separate neutral and ground.

Now some say "But the meter is out at a pole, and this is the run between meter and house". Sure, except didn't the power company/inspector require you to have a main disconnect out at the pole? I bet they did. Then it needs to be 4-wire.

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  • This wire is coming from power company transformer to a 200 amp meter/ distribution panel. That’s why it’s triplex direct bury but in conduit. No ground is needed. Only 2 grounding rods at panel
    – Dean
    May 20, 2021 at 1:02
  • Thanks for the opinion about pulling wire. Just saw it done and seemed to work. They had conduit assembled and clued next to the trench, vacuum pulled a line though. Pulled wire, then put in trench.
    – Dean
    May 20, 2021 at 2:09
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    The entire conduit run between panels or junction boxes needs to be complete, fastened down, backfilled and tamped before you start pulling. Pulling forces can be considerable and could break or pull the conduits apart. May 20, 2021 at 7:51
  • It's a straight shot accept where the sweep coming up to panel and into transformer. Wouldn't it be ok to glue, bury and stamp the straight sections, pull wire and then put on sweeps and connect to panel? Seems like having it connected to panel and feeding wire 4/0 4/0 2/0 wire though the panel adapter creates more work and possible damage to panel while doing it.
    – Dean
    May 23, 2021 at 15:02
  • It would still be a code violation, but I'm wondering why you think that? It seems harder to me, I just don't see how the endgame would work... when the sweep, stub-up and adapter are over the wires, how do you get it though the knockout in the panel? Last time I tried that it was a nightmare, and that was with #12 wire... May 23, 2021 at 18:40

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