0

I have an exposed conduit switch box on my front porch that controls a spotlight. I would like to add a gfci outlet to the switch box (swapping the switch box for a double box thst is weatherproof) The switch seems to be a 3 way switch but the wiring does not match what I have read for either a single pole or a three way shared switch circuit. And as far as I can tell there is only one switch for this light (inconveniently located on the front porch). I do not know if the power goes to the light or switch first.

Switch has one side with a dark screw and a gold screw, then the other side has a second gold screw opposite the first, and a blank space opposite the dark screw. There is also a ground screw.
In the switch box is one run with black white and bare wires. Black goes to the dark screw "top" of the switch, white goes to gold screw on the opposite side and bottom of the switch from black. Bare is attached to the ground screw.

In one position all the black, white and empty gold screw are not hot, in the other switch position the black and empty (same side as each other) are hot but the white is not (using a noncontact voltage sniffer).
In the light box there is also one lead (pigtailed to two spotlights) Is it possible to add the gfci?

enter image description hereenter image description hereenter image description hereenter image description here

  • "I do not know if the power goes to the light or switch first." both the light and the outlet are controlled by the one switch? – Alaska Man Aug 29 '20 at 20:53
  • No outlet yet Alaska, that's what I want to add, and I don't want it controlled by the switch I want it to always be hot. – B Storms Aug 29 '20 at 21:12
  • Is replacing the wiring to this switch in the cards? Can you post photos of the inside of the box for the spotlight even? – ThreePhaseEel Aug 29 '20 at 21:19
  • Added the spotlight photos. And while I want to do a solid job I'd prefer not to do long runs of wires. I started this plan based on the presence of the switch run on the porch. I have a need for power on thst porch and that was the first obvious option. (and admittedly this is a rental) – B Storms Aug 29 '20 at 22:01
  • If it's a rental, make sure you have permission in writing from the landlord. TBH, though, I'm not sure you're technically allowed to do work on a rental, either as the renter or landlord unless you're licensed. – FreeMan Aug 29 '20 at 22:12
1

This is a 3-way switch being used in 1-way mode. Note that nothing is attached to the second traveler (brass) screw. That's a perfectly fine setup. With only a single cable to the switch, it is not a "power to the switch first" setup.

There is only one cable going into this light. That means it's not a "power to the light first" setup either.

Yes, that means it's something you're unfamiliar with.

There's clearly some sort of third junction. I'm getting the impression you think the switch is inconvenient for where the light is. Maybe our third junction is at a light which is appropriately located for that switch, and either you don't know about it (burned out before you moved in?) or it has been removed but the box left. Or, the box is somewhere else entirely, or in the service panel.

Regardless, all this to say, you can have the light and switch, or you can have the GFCI, but you can't have both...

And separate from all that, you can't alter the premises without permission from the landlord...

And separate from all that, you can't do electrical work on a rental unit (even if you own it) unless you are a licensed electrician.

Your Answer

By clicking “Post Your Answer”, you agree to our terms of service, privacy policy and cookie policy

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.