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Will this be okay for a 40 amp range? The box was set a little too low. I wasn't sure if they bend what cause any issues.

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    Isn't it kind of "too late"? The bend's already there, any up-front damage to the contained copper has already been done. – Alexander Jul 13 '20 at 17:59

I'm not certain what guage that wire is but many manufacturers will cite a minimum bend radius. It may or may not be code compliance wherever you are in the world.

I suspect that wire has a minimum bend radius between 1 and 2 inches.

You can achieve that most easily by just rotating the receptacle. The wire will tail upwards, which will look strange, but it will be behind the range so as long as you can maintain the clearance required, you'll be fine.

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    Great solution, but I'm going add to your answer. For the OP: before you do anything, turn off power to the range. Then unplug the outlet, remove the cover plate and then the outlet itself. Rotate 180 degrees (1/2 way around) and re-install. The wires will be very stiff and it will take some effort. Double check the tightness of the wires on the terminals as long as you're in there. replace the cover plate and plug the range back in with the cord pointing up. Matthew solved your problem, I just wanted to add some additional instructions. – George Anderson Jul 12 '20 at 14:39
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    Depending on location, OP might not be legally allowed to do this change. Same goes if its a rental. A 90 degree clockwise rotation might suit better than a 180 degree turn, and is less change for the hefty wiring inside the wall. – Criggie Jul 12 '20 at 22:25
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    @Criggie a 90° rotation was my first thought, too. But... the outlet may not have fittings to be able to be attached at 90° to its current orientation, while it's almost certain to be able to be fitted at 180°. – FreeMan Jul 13 '20 at 13:00
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    It's not ideal, but given that it's plugged in now, it's fine to just leave it. Damage happens to cables when they are subject to repeated mechanical stress. The copper is bent already. The more you mess with it, the more you will weaken it. For the number of times you will ever need to plug or unplug that stove in its lifetime it's maybe not worth changing. – J... Jul 13 '20 at 14:07
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    I flipped it 180. Freeman was correct tge box dies not have a way mount 90 degrees – Mstar Jul 13 '20 at 15:25

I can't comment on the correctness of the bend radius, but if you're concerned its too tight, this might help:

I searched around a bit and found this Eaton 5745N which I think would fit as a replacement plug in your situation:

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(Image borrowed from Amazon)

It seems to be available from various online and big-box outlets.

As @FreeMan comments - make sure there is enough of clearance behind the range such that the cable doesn't get overly bent by the back of the range as it it is put back in place.

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    This is a great idea that may have unintended consequences... As the oven is pushed back against the wall, the cord that's now sticking straight out will get crimped over at essentially the same angle as in the current situation. I do like the lateral thinking, though. – FreeMan Jul 13 '20 at 17:47
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    @FreeMan There is always a small cavity/space at outlet-level to accomodate the plug, cable, etc. I think almost all ranges would accomodate this plug at standard outlet heights. – J... Jul 13 '20 at 18:07
  • I did say "may", @J... ;) Well, OK, I started with "may", then switched to "will"... – FreeMan Jul 13 '20 at 18:10
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    +1 now with the added warning (and not because of the shout out). – FreeMan Jul 13 '20 at 18:11
  • According the the GE install instructions , if in the shaded "zone of acceptability: as long as it did not stick out more than 2.25" it will fit. So I a surface mount box would only JUST be in that zone and ONLY if tipped on its narrow side. I mention this since the plug might be already at the length once plugged in and thee wire thickness "stand out" might mean the cord might want to get bent or cause issues pushing it back. I would never have thought an oven would be so picky. – Mstar Jul 14 '20 at 15:37

That's obviously a moulded plug, but if there's room between the socket and whatever's in front of it, that plug could be changed for one which lets the wire come out of it perpendicularly. Depending on regs where you are, the whole lead may need changing for one with a moulded plug as described.

40 Amps out of a plug top?? Not with 220v...

Another solution might be to dig out whatever is impeding the wire - so there is some room under, where the wire is jammed.

  • The NEMA 14-50 (and its close cousin, the NEMA 6-50) is a standard, and quite satisfactory, plug and socket for 50A @ 240V -- it's much bigger and chunkier than the "normal" 15/20A US plugs. (There's even a 60A version, but it's rarely seen in the wild) – ThreePhaseEel Jul 13 '20 at 14:55
  • I have not found one that is wired with the plug with the wire on the side. – Mstar Jul 13 '20 at 15:29
  • @Mstar - with the wire coming straight out, at 90 degrees to the wall? In Europe, they're commonplace. – Tim Jul 13 '20 at 15:41
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    Wires coming straight out are common in the US as well, but not for this type of plug. For regular 110/120v plugs, it's more common than not to have the wire coming straight out, but for 230/240v appliance plugs like this (usually reserved for ranges or clothes dryers), it's pretty much always flat against the wall. – Darrel Hoffman Jul 13 '20 at 15:50

So, Matthew's solution works if your plug is symmetric; but what if it isn't? The grounded types mostly arent.

A quick fix is to use an Male-to-Female adapter with a right angle in an appropriate direction, e.g.:

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(if that fits). Then you won't have to worry about the cable's tolerance to nasty bending. A second, similar alternative is using a rotating extension cable:

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  • Note that their receptacle and plug are NEMA 10-50 or 14-50, not "B" which is the 5-15... – ThreePhaseEel Jul 12 '20 at 23:43
  • @ThreePhaseEel: 1. Thanks, I'm not well-versed in US plugs. 2. I'm not sure who "their" is, but sure. It was just an example. – einpoklum Jul 12 '20 at 23:44
  • I actually did a quick search earlier for a right-angle cord to replace the existing one, and I couldn't find one. I suspect they are available, but not in the Home Depot, etc. – manassehkatz-Moving 2 Codidact Jul 12 '20 at 23:56
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    To put it more succinctly, 15 and 20 amp single phase (120v) adapters like this are fairly ubiquitous. A range will need a 4-prong 230v adapter. The best chance at finding one is going to be an RV cord like this one, and the cost and practicality of that is low in this case. – Machavity Jul 13 '20 at 3:00
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    Matthew's solution works because the socket's turned round, not just the plug , most of which are non symmetric, especially those with an earth. – Tim Jul 13 '20 at 14:33

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