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One of my bathroom sinks drains slowly with the water running ( like when brushing your teeth ) but drains quite quickly if I plug the sink, fill it all the way, and release the drain plug.

When the water is running and the drain is open, the sink drains slower than it fills, but using a stopwatch, the sink drains from full, when the stopper is removed, much faster than filling it took.

I think the drainpipe is pretty simple. It goes out from the bottom of the sink, through the tap, into the wall, and straight down to the main drain line. It was snaked a few months ago, but aside from relieving the immediate clog, did nothing to improve the speed of the drain.

One thing to add, when I release the plug and allow a full sink to quickly drain, just before it finishes draining, the drain makes a somewhat loud "sucking" noise before the last 1/4 of the basin drains out. Not sure if that's relevant, but I don't hear it under normal operation, etc.

Is this some kind of venting issue or having to do with the pitch of the pipe from the trap to the wall ?

What might cause this ?

  • I have one of those too. Drives me crazy. – Harper - Reinstate Monica May 29 at 17:27
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  • "drainpipe is pretty simple" - too simple; 'direct vent'. Take the trap lose and put a bucket; repeat the experiments (I'd like to know too ;) – Mazura May 30 at 4:07
  • @Mazura - I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're saying.... If I take the trap loose the water will just fall in the bucket either way... – Greg Nickoloff May 30 at 4:58
  • That it's a direct vent. It enters the stack w/o first branching off to a vent. If it was any longer than five feet away from the stack, it would suck the trap dry. Disconnecting the trap would essentially give it a real vent. Doing the test again w/o the trap hooked up would prove my theory, and disprove J's; that it has anything to do with the stopper (ideally with the 'p' still on it) – Mazura May 30 at 5:03
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Warning, wild speculation ahead, but I have had this problem.

I've always thought that the aerated water causes some kind of "bubble dam" that plays with the way the water is able to go through the relatively thin space that the popup creates. Blocking the bubbles with my hand and letting pure water start going down the drain seems to stop the bubble phenomenon and water will drain faster.

I think removing the bubbles and starting a good flow lets a siphon effect take over and suck the rest of the water down quickly. The bubbly water never lets a large enough volume of water to drain to start a good siphon.

I have had luck with raising the pop-up drain to allow a bigger gap for water to drain. Of course, I have also completely removed the pop-up as well because I never need to stop up the drain.

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  • That's interesting. I'll experiment with that. – Greg Nickoloff May 29 at 21:16
  • That siphon effect you're trying for would also syphon the trap dry. – DJohnM May 29 at 22:18
  • @DJohnM - I thought about that. The trap is not dry, as far as any time I've dealt with it. – Greg Nickoloff May 30 at 1:14
  • I didn't think so at first but I guess we're on the same page. The siphon effect takes over because it's a direct vent. – Mazura May 30 at 5:26
  • I didn’t really mean a literal siphon that would suck the trap dry. It just seems that once the water starts flowing, it easily continues without the bubbles in the way. – JPhi1618 May 30 at 5:28
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It probably creates a whirlpool when full sucking the water down quicker.

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  • I don't see any whirlpool effect. Maybe I'll experiment with some food coloring or something to see I I can find a swirl to it. – Greg Nickoloff May 29 at 21:17

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