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I have recently rented a condo in a new building in Toronto (2020) where they didnt have lights installed in the Living room. I went to homedepot today and I am trying to install a light fixture that i got. Here are the wires coming out of it. It has 3 bulbs: enter image description here

I opened the box in the ceiling and I saw more wires than I expected. I expected just a green, black and a white wire. enter image description here Also, good thing I bought a voltage tester, because if I didnt I might have been dead right now. I found out that the yellow wire that had a tag saying "for light" is always hot and the switch doesn't cut the power from it. (Same for the black wires)

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Now, I dont know how to connect all three bulbs to which wires, Any help would be appreciated

Update 1: Here is the wiring of the switch, there is no other switch except that one which should control the ceiling wires enter image description here

Update 2: Here is the entire Switch Box The first switch on the left control the hallway light. This light also is controlled by another standalone switch...

The Middle switch is the Kitchen light... and the switch on the right is the one I think controls the ceiling wires because it is the only one which does nothing.

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The ceiling didn't have anything connected, it was just a white cap.

Also, I have disconnected the yellow wire from the switch and it still shows a positive charge with the voltage tester.

Update 3: Connecting all the black wires of the fixture to the yellow wire from the ceiling has worked with the switch with no issues. Fitting all the white wires together was a hassle, so if you have a similar setup, make an electrical Pigtail as suggested by the answer.

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  • Can you post photos of the inside of the switch box please? This looks like a conduit job.... May 24, 2020 at 2:16
  • Thanks for the fast response @ThreePhaseEel, when i was trying to take a picture from the inside, I have found bunch of black cables tucked in inside. So I have pulled them out and updated the post with the new screenshot. I tried to shove my phone inside but i cannot make it to fit to get a good picture
    – A Guy
    May 24, 2020 at 2:37
  • As I believe @ThreePhaseEel was suggesting, please post a photo of the junction box behind the switch that you believe should control that light. It's possible that the yellow wire has been run to the switch box, but is nutted to the line (black) wires behind the switch. Even when you believe your switch controls the wires you're working with, I recommend cutting power at the breaker. Also, be aware that a junction box may contain multiple branches (more than one breaker), so never assume the power is off in a junction box. May 24, 2020 at 3:44
  • I have edit the post to include the wiring of the switch @DaveHughes
    – A Guy
    May 24, 2020 at 4:29
  • Picture of the switch box @ThreePhaseEel
    – A Guy
    May 24, 2020 at 4:30

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Don't sweat the 3 blacks and 3 whites in the fixture. Those are so you have the option to power multiple bulbs off different circuits... say you have some circuits on a generator, you can put 1 of the bulbs on the generator-side panel. All the fixture blacks go together (in fact I would pigtail them on the bench before installing). All the fixture whites go together (again pigtail those on the bench).

First, DO NOT split up any of the black and white bundles in this setup. A few months ago we saw someone in almost your identical situation take apart ALL those wires, spread them out, shoot a photo and post it here... and unfortunately this was an older building with cloth covered wires, and colors were indistinguishable. The poor person knocked out power to a neighbor's flat, and had to fork out $300 to hire the landlord's electrician to put it all back right.

Your building is wired in conduit, and so the electrician was able to do something they usually are unable to do: actually color-coded the wires by function. In your case (only), black is always-hot, white is neutral, and single yellow is switched-hot for the lamp.

Your voltage tester is giving you a bad reading because of "phantom voltage" and a quirk of how voltage testers work. We can see plain as day that the yellow wire is correctly wired to a switch. If you install the light and it's really on 24x7, then the only possibility is a defective switch.

I agree with Jasen that you will need to add a white wire to the existing white wires - that's why I say pigtail the lamp whites, so you're only adding 1 wire instead of trying to cram 3 little wires into a nut that already has 3 big ones (not legal and not gonna happen). Even for 4 wires you will need the larger "red or tan" wire nuts.

Crank down wire nuts Very Hard, and pull test them without tape. If you need tape, don't - that is a bad connection that will start a fire. Fix your technique.

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  • I wish I knew what a an electric Pigtail was before I attempted to install it. I had to spend 30 minutes to cram the white wires into the nut while my hands where up to the ceiling all the time. It was a nightmare. I managed to get a snug fit at the end though but I cannot really say for sure. I might let an electrician take a look at my wiring when I get the chance.
    – A Guy
    May 25, 2020 at 8:06
  • @AGuy You just discovered why I pigtail almost everything :) Why work in a stress position when you can do all the pigtailing at an ergonomic workbench? Get up the ladder, join a few wires with wire nuts, and you're back down just like that. May 25, 2020 at 13:05
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A non-contact yoltage detector is not a dignostic tool it is a safety tool. it will only tell you that a wire might be live. it will not reliably tell you that a disconnected wire is not live.

Turn off the power to this circuit (you can confirm that it is off using the voltage detector) connect the lamp to the yellow and white wires, turn the power back on, and see what happens.

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  • Thanks Jasen, that has worked
    – A Guy
    May 25, 2020 at 8:06

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