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I'm trying to figure out how long a small 3 Gallon compressor tank will last in between the compressor kicking on and off. I know the tank volume, and cut-in/cut-out PSI, and my approximate SCF usage per minute. So can I just calculate the SCF of the tank at the cut-in and cut-out pressure, and then subtract them to get "usable SCF"?

The cut-in/cut-out pressure are the tank pressure before the regulator, which will step the pressure down 40-100 PSI. But converting to SCF should accommodate for this, right?

I'm using SCF = ACF * (tank pressure + 14.7) / 14.7 (in cubic feet and PSI units), where ACF is the actual tank volume.

Then the "usable air" = SCF_cutout - SCF_cutin?

EDIT: Concrete example:
Tank: 3 Gallons = 0.4 cubic feet (ACF)
Compressor Cut-out: 150 PSI
Compressor Cut-in: 120 PSI

Tank SCF @ 150 PSI: 4.5 cubic feet
Tank SCF @ 120 PSI: 3.7 cubic feet
"Usable SCF" = 4.5 - 3.7 = 0.8 cubic feet <-- is this correct?

RE: regulator pressure, it will be between 20-80 PSI - but the conversion to SCF should account for that, no?

Long story short, if I'm using 2.0 SCF/minute constantly, with only 0.8 SCF available in the tank between compressor cycles, then the compressor will always be on, which is bad, right?

[all this is ignoring temperature for simplicity, which I acknowledge is unrealistic]

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  • What's your regulator setting? Tank pressure doesn't matter until it falls below your regulator setting, and then, it degrades your work quickly. – Harper - Reinstate Monica Apr 20 '20 at 17:32
  • Usable air ? As opposed to Un-usable air ? – Alaska Man Apr 20 '20 at 19:33
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You should just measure the usage time through real world experimentation. This will give you the quickest and most accurate information at your real world set of conditions.

Empirical measurement methods will factor in all the variables of the system that may not be considered in a simple theoretical mathematical model. In fact the empirical method would be used repeatedly to verify any mathematical model while all the unaccounted variables are factored into the model.

If you do not currently have the air compressor unit on hand to do the empirical test you should consider one of:

  1. See if you can borrow a similar compressor from a friend or colleague. It may be even easier to take your attachment gear with you to their shop or garage to do the test since for a test on a 3 gallon tank it will not take a long time at all.
  2. Rent a unit from a rental yard for a half day. Schedule it so you can use it when you can also plan to use it for a regular task.
  3. Take your gear with you to the orange colored BigBox store....many have rental sections....and explain that you are looking to purchase a unit from the store and ask them if they would help you run the empirical test right there in the store.
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  • Since you only have ~1/2 cu ft of air ~7.5 us gallons= 1 cuft. I would time the usage as the temp of the air in the tank will also have an effect on the pressure but the volume is constant we see this on scuba tanks where a hot fill where the tank is actually warmed by 10 degrees can have a 500 psi pressure drop when you get in the water. Depending on the tank manufacturer the volume may be calculated at pressure so there is more than the simple gas laws that will affect your run time. I have 1 compressor that states volume at 150 psi a different one just states the volume of the tank at ATA+ – Ed Beal Apr 20 '20 at 13:55
  • I agree an empirical test would be ideal - but I'm trying to ballpark the math before I buy anything, so my real question is, are my assumptions valid? Right now I'm ignoring temperature, and my conclusion is borderline (it seems like SCF usage per minute exceeds the tank capacity ("usable SCF" from above), so the compressor would constantly be running during use). So temperature would only hurt that situation, right? – float13 Apr 20 '20 at 14:29
  • @float13 - Please see last paragraphs added to my answer. – Michael Karas Apr 20 '20 at 15:56
  • Thanks, I appreciate the advice - I'm doing this purely on paper right now, I have no equipment to test yet ;) – float13 Apr 20 '20 at 19:00

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