My heat pump 90 amp circuit breaker keeps tripping. Heating guy said it is the circuit breaker and it need to be replaced. It is hot to the touch. My local store only has the 100 amp circuit breaker. Can this be substituted? Or do I need to special order the 90 amp.

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    Can you edit your post to include photos of the nameplate data on the furnace? We're interested in the amps of the emergency heat coils. If you want to do that from a different device, make sure to add an email and password to your account; if you didn't do so already your account is cookie-based and will only work on that browser. Feb 22 '20 at 0:22
  • Can you post the nameplate data for the furnace please? Also, what size is the wire running from the culprit breaker to the heat pump indoor unit, and what make and model is your breaker box? Feb 22 '20 at 0:35
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    Is your heat pump under warranty? Feb 22 '20 at 14:03
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    What is the size of the electrical wires from the breaker panel to the furnace? It will be (number) AWG, and the number will be between 1 and 6. Also, say whether the wire is copper or aluminum (”AL"). Feb 22 '20 at 19:56

Depends on the label on the Heat pump, the wire size and type, and the stab rating on the panel cover.

Breakers do wear out, it would still be a benefit to replace with the original size it if was the correct size to start with.

It is rare that anybody installs a smaller than maximum allowed breaker at the time of installation, but the information you need can be found on the nameplate of the Heat Pump, it should look something like this:

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The line that says "max fuse amps or hacr type circuit breaker" is the line that tell you the maximum breaker allowed. This breaker can be at the electrical panel or at the disconnect at the unit. If the breaker at the panel is sized to the maximum listed then the wire only has to meet the rating of "minimum circuit ampacity". But if the over current protection at the unit provides the maximum allowed breaker or fuse, and the breaker in the panel is larger then the wire has to be treated as a "feeder" must be matched to the breaker in the panel.

You can see in the label shown that the breaker is allowed to be 50A, but the wire has to only be sized for 29A. But if you feed it from a 60A breaker in the panel and a 50A breaker or fuse at the unit then you would need to up the wire between the breakers to 60A wire. The amperage rating of the wire is based on insulation and conductor type from a chart in the NEC (with additional restrictions on wire #10 and smaller) and the temperature rating of the terminals where the wire is attached.

Then there can be an issue with the breaker in the electrical panel. Many panels have a restriction on the label that limit the total amperage of breakers installed head-to-head. If increasing the breaker size exceeds this number then you can't do it.

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    Wrong nameplate -- the OP needs the air handler's nameplate I reckon, not the outdoor unit's (only time I could see an outdoor unit in a light-duty app drawing 90A is if it were a unitary/rooftop system and not a more traditional split system, as it's the aux heat that is eating all that current. Feb 22 '20 at 4:59
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    @3ØEel You're right, edited. Feb 22 '20 at 5:24
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    Thank you so much for the reply. Having someone come over and will check out the wires. Appreciate the help. Feb 22 '20 at 14:00

Have the connections at the breaker been checked for tightness? If AL wire, is there any sign of oxidation? Is there still enough noalox on there? My mom and dads house had an electric boiler for radient heat (yeah, I know, don't start! LOL) that required a 125 amp feed. The original installer used AL wire. There were 3 breakers for the heating elements in the boiler and one for the circulating pump. My dad couldn't turn on all the heating elements without the feed breaker in the main panel getting really hot and eventually trip (scary situation) . To fix it I ripped out the AL wire and installed the correct sized copper in flex conduit. Completely solved the problem. I know AL is a lot cheaper and when installed correctly can do the job, but in this case, with such a high current draw, I felt copper was best.

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    And that ... is why you have to use torque screwdrivers now. Feb 22 '20 at 1:09
  • Thank you for the answer. We have someone coming over to check it out. Feb 22 '20 at 14:00

If the wire is not sized to carry 100A, then you cannot use a 100A circuit breaker.

  • Thank you for the answer. We have someone coming over to check it out. Feb 22 '20 at 14:00

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