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We've been living in our house for 10 years, and a few years after moving in our sewer line began backing up every 6 months or so. Each time, we'd have to pay a plumber to come in a "roto root" or snake the line, and they would pull up all sorts of roots and growth that had seeped into the line. As it turns out, our line was made of orangeburg (basically, tar paper!) which was popular back in the 60s and 70s which is the era our house was built. This orangeburg apparently was starting to fail and allow roots from a nearby tree to grow into it, but was also structurally failing and beginning to collapse in on itself. Every time we've brought in a plumber to snake the line, they've reported worse and worse deterioration in the line. So two days ago (after kicking the can on this for nearly 7 years), we finally bit the plumbing bullet and ordered a septic service to replace the line entirely.

They did good work, but because the line was so severely deteriorated they decided to drill a new hole through our foundation from which to run the new line. The work was done and over with in just over a day, and we were happy with the work they did. No complaints.

However, its been raining all day and I just went down to the basement, and the whole entire area surrounding where the sewer line leaves the house is now leaking rainwater in from around the cinder blocks (yes, cinderblock foundation):

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If its not obvious, the white PVC pipe going into the wall is the new sewer line. Previously that white PVC coupled into a copper pipe and then angled down to the old connection which you can see is a few feet below (capped off with black tape).

A few noteworthy items from the pictures above:

  • Water has never leaked from this area before, ever
  • Notice that the water is coming in from cracks between the blocks and the mortar holding them to adjacent blocks
  • Notice that the water is extremely muddy
  • FWIW, I placed large tarps over the ground on the outside of the house above these leaks, and have already noticed a substantial deceleration in the flooding, so these leaks are definitely coming from rainwater

I can think of 3 possibilities as to what would cause this:

  1. While boring the new hole for the new line, the septic/drain service inadvertently (not pointing fingers or looking to assign blame!) weakened the cinder blocks and opened up cracks, which is now allowing rainwater in; or
  2. They (obviously) had to trench out the ground from the outside to get down to this new line, and then when they were done connecting the line to the sewer they just used the same dirt that was excavated (to make the trench) to fill the trench back in. This dirt is now super loose and porous. So perhaps the cracks were already there in the cinder blocks, and the previously-compact soil was acting as a barrier/membrane that prevented rainwater from getting down to those cracks. But because the soil is now loose, its allowing all the rainwater to drop down into those cracks and spill through into the basement. The fact that the water is so muddy tells me this is absolutely at least part of the problem, as we've had leaks in the basement in other areas, but its always been clear, not muddy; or
  3. Some combination of #1 and #2 above

My proposed solution

I'm looking for a solution here. My first inclination was to just parge the inside (basement) of the foundation to prevent water from getting in through the cracks. But after reviewing the play, I don't think that will stop rainwater from getting into the cinder blocks, and once that freezes this winter, expanding + contracting will start to bust those blocks up and totally ruin our foundation...

So, here's what I'm proposing, and I'd love to hear feedback and better suggestions from this community if anybody has any to offer:

  1. Dig out the entire area that is leaking from the outside, all the way to the bottom of the foundation, some 7 - 8 ft under the ground
  2. Parge the foundation from both sides, the outside as well as the inside/basement
  3. Fill and pack down the huge hole that was just dug
  4. Install a trench drain (or something like it) along the outside of the house around the area that is leaking, and lead that drain maybe 10 - 15 feet out away from the house

My thinking here is that the trench drain will stop 90% of the ground water from ever reaching the cinder blocks that are leaking, and the < 10% that does make it there will hopefully be stopped by the parging on the outside of the block. The parging on the inside is just yet another line of defense but is admittedly probably not necessary.

My question

Given all the information I've provided, is the solution correct, only a partial solution, or totally outlandish? What is the correct solution here? Are there are aspects of this I might not be considering?

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    You're really nice! I'd be calling the septic contractor to have them come back and fix the problem. It seems that they messed something up when putting the (outside of) the house back together. – FreeMan Oct 23 at 13:20
  • Can you post a couple pictures of the ground outside this area of the house? Far enough away to see slope. And is there anything like a downspout draining into this area? – Drew Oct 23 at 15:14
  • I will post pictures of the outside shortly. @FreeMan there was nothing to put "back together" on the outside of the house, just fill in the dirt. Its impossible for me to argue that the cracks in the cinderblock weren't already there (as jwh20 pointed out, cinderblocks are anything but waterproof). – hotmeatballsoup Oct 23 at 16:46
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Block walls are not waterproof, in fact solid concrete ones are not all that waterproof either. The way to prevent what you're seeing has 3 components:

  1. Prevent water from infiltrating the soil next to the foundation wall
  2. Provide a positive drain for any water that does make it into the soil near the wall.
  3. Seal the wall from the outside so that water has a hard time entering.

At least one of these has changed and the worst culprit in most cases is item 1. Check your drainage and your downspouts. Is anything discharging water near the foundation? If so, fix the problem so that all drainwater is routed away from the foundation. Is any water pooling? Fix that.

There should be a foundation drain at the bottom of your wall that allows water to drain away from the foundation. Is there one? Is it blocked? Anytime the water pressure outside the wall exceeds the ability of the wall to block it, the water will infiltrate and flood the basement.

A block or concrete wall should be sealed from the outside. I know there are inside seal products marketed but these are like band-aids over a major injury. They don't solve the problem they only mask it.

As far as fixing this, if this were my home I would do it right. Yes, you'll need to dig it out to the bottom and either find/repair the existing foundation drain or install one if it's missing or damaged beyond repair. Best case you go all the way around and install a pipe that carries the water to a storm drain or other place where this water should go.

Then I would seal the outside since you have it exposed. There are products on the market that seal and provide a weep-space for any infiltrating water to drain down.

Finally refill the trench and grade it away from the foundation.

Is that a lot of work? Yes it is. But you have a major problem that will eventually ruin your foundation.

  • Thank you (+1) but I was hoping for a little more detail on a solution. Thoughts on trench drain vs french drain, etc. – hotmeatballsoup Oct 23 at 11:22
  • @hotmeatballsoup I updated the answer with additional details. – jwh20 Oct 23 at 16:03
  • The sealing of the outside wall is key. There is tar paint but the wall has to be clean and dry. Nothing you do in the winter. A french drain on the footing, in general, should lead the water away from the house to avoid that the water level is rising. I dont thing the plumber has anything to do with that problem. He just disturbed the flow of the water which started the problem. All that is for sure not cheap - sorry. – Ride Sun Oct 23 at 16:05

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