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I have a GFCI receptacle that takes 2-5 seconds to trip when testing with a standard 3 prong receptacle tester. The test button on the receptacle trips right away but two of my trustworthy handheld testers (different brands) take much longer. After changing out the GFCI, the circuit can be tripped immediately with the testers.

Is this a common failure mode? I've replaced many that trip unnecessarily or won't reset at all, but this slow-trip is a first for me. (and has now been replaced)

This also leads me to wonder if there is a tester that measures the time to trip. I'm unlikely to notice the difference between 30ms and 300ms when punching the test button, yet this could be a serious hazard with the equipment, right?

  • "test button on the receptacle trips right away" - then it's fine. Your "trustworthy handheld testers" are for finding open neutrals, missing grounds, and reversed polarity. – Mazura Oct 14 '19 at 21:15
  • Are you saying that GFCI testers can't test GFCIs? – user7264855 Oct 15 '19 at 1:22
  • I'm saying I don't use them to test the functionality of a GFCI receptacle. That's what the integral 'test' button is for. – Mazura Oct 15 '19 at 1:27
  • I've had to replace so many bad GFCIs that I just don't have a lot of trust for them. This one is new behavior in my experience, and when I effectively connect hot to ground and the GFCI doesn't trip, something seems wrong. – user7264855 Oct 15 '19 at 2:20
  • Agreed. That's why after "the problem went away with a new GFCI" I stop asking questions. Do note though, a GFCI is looking for an imbalance on the neutral, while your tester likely shunts to ground. I suspect you're missing the No EGC sticker and there isn't one (a grounding conductor). – Mazura Oct 15 '19 at 2:38
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It may be a faulty tester, or a faulty ground. The tester relies on a wired ground to simulate the ground fault. In fact they won't work on ungrounded connections, and that's not a defect.

  • So, if my two testers successfully trip every other GFCI, then I should suspect a faulty ground. Since the problem went away with a new GFCI, the faulty ground was within the old GFCI receptacle? What kind of faulty ground would cause this? Not an open ground, right? – user7264855 Oct 15 '19 at 1:22
  • @user7264855 I did not have the information that you had replaced the receptacle and that solved the problem. My answer reflects that knowledge gap. – Harper - Reinstate Monica Oct 15 '19 at 2:59
  • the ground issue could have been between the ground wire from the junction box and the ground screw on the outlet. Id' be curious if a re-wired original outlet would still exhibit the issue. – Paul Belanger Oct 18 '19 at 14:58
  • @PaulBelanger for that matter the loose ground could be anywhere between the outlet and the neutral-ground bond in the panel (or pole if the panel one is out). GFCI devices don't communicate with ground in any way. Indeed I would suspect the N-G bond. – Harper - Reinstate Monica Oct 18 '19 at 16:05
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Trip time is not part of the specs for GFCIs or the test circuits, only the level, which is between 4 and 6mA of current that is NOT returning on the neutral. It could be that your handy tester is using a current limiting resistor inside to test the circuit that takes 3-5 seconds for the trip threshold to exceed that value. The test button on the GFCI basically works the same way (a current limiting resistor) but probably uses a lower ohm value so that it reaches the threshold faster. Not something to worry about really.

  • Well in my opinion it is because you are slow. I have tested thousands of breakers and , outlets ! There is a specific fault level IF those specific values are met , the protection opens the circuit and you are safe. – Ed Beal Oct 15 '19 at 0:33
  • @JRaef That's good info. I measure the resistance in one of my testers at 15.6 k Ohms and the other at 1.6 M Ohms (hot to ground when button pressed), which would put the first at 8 mA and the second at about 80 uA. (if I haven't screwed up my math). Now I don't understand why the 1.6 M Ohm version (a Klein) trips at all; but it does with every other GFCI. I don't understand what you mean by taking time to trip the threshold value of 4-6mA. Current (Amps) is a rate, not an amount of flow (which is Coulombs) right? Does the resistance in a GFCI vary over time or with voltage? – user7264855 Oct 15 '19 at 1:54
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    Actually trip time is part of the spec for GFCI, The trip time should be within a few AC cycles, much less than a second. – ratchet freak Oct 15 '19 at 11:55
  • Resistance in the tester may be from an NTC resistor, meaning the resistance drops as it heats up. Those are common to use as inrush current limiting devices. – JRaef Oct 15 '19 at 17:28

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