# Can I remove the circuit breaker handle ties and treat them as individual circuits?

o.k., I get what handle ties will do, just not sure why you would use them?

in the panel of my new home, there are quite a few (7-8) and I would just as soon remove the ties and treat all individual 120v/15a circuits as just that - - individual 120v/15a circuits

• Can you post photos of the panel? Also, have you heard of a Multi-Wire Branch Circuit before? Sep 21, 2019 at 15:59
• Don't remove them!!!! Harper's got a mile long answer for this.
– JACK
Sep 21, 2019 at 16:17

## But they're not individual 120V circuits!

They are combined into pairs, as something called a multi-wire branch circuit. These share a neutral, so they're not separate at all.

The handle-ties exist for a bunch of reasons.

## They must be on different poles/phases

Top of the hitlist is to force them into different poles or phases, i.e. To keep someone from obliviously moving them onto a double-stuff breaker so they're on the same pole. That would set the neutral wire on fire, because the neutral wire would be handling all the current for both hots.

Whereas, if they are on different poles/phases, neutral only handles differential current: there's some math, but on a split-phase or 2-of-3-phase system, neutral will never have more current than any one hot. This is the slick trick of the multi-wire branch circuit. Take a look at a big box store's lighting sometime; they make full use of 3-phase MWBCs at 277V, and it lets them put over 20,000 watts of lighting on twelve #12 wires in a 3/4" conduit.

Anyway, as a practical matter, in modern service panels, the presence of a mandatory handle-tie forces you to position the MWBC on opposite phases/poles.

That is its most important function where someone has an itch to rearrange the panel. We'll come back to that.

## Common maintenance shutoff

Typically, an electrician plugs a radio into a circuit, and shuts off breakers until the radio falls silent. This ought to work on a MWBC. Otherwise, the electrician could shut off half the MWBC, and promptly get nailed by the other half. "But how can that be? He'd only be messing with neutral, and that's harmless!" If that were true, we wouldn't insulate it... Actually neutral is hot, it's just near ground if everything is working right and properly connected.

The handle ties ensure that when he silences the radio, he has shut off the entire circuit.

This is the part of the handle-tie that is actually Code mandated. Forcing opposite poles is just a nice side effect.

## But my half is tripping because of overuse of the other half!

My home is fantastically underserved. It is on half an MWBC; the other half is shared by 2 apartments. (Really.) Even so, having to reset a breaker from overload is a very rare occurrence, (maybe once every 5 years in my lifetime). It should be rare. If it's not rare, someone is doing something wrong and not taking a hint.

The cure for this is to learn about wattage of devices. Most people have no idea a hair dryer takes more power than a 54" TV. They're plainly labeled: learn what that means, learn what is on which circuits, and don't overload the circuits. My partner figured it out with only 3 explainings, and knows exactly how to sequence microwave, toaster, hair dryer and various heaters on high vs low.

## But I want to overstuff my panel!

A constant refrain here is "buy a huge panel". Because it only costs a few dollars more, and it saves you from having panel-cram problems later. I gather your builder didn't get the memo.

Our quickest cure for that is "add a subpanel". I like to see a total number of full breaker spaces for a house to be in the forties. So if you have a 24 space, get another one. 16, get a 30. Etc. There are other strategies for underserved or obsolete/dangerous panels, that involve preparing the subpanel to become the new main panel when resources permit a changeover. This isn't spendthrift, this is a very economical way of being smart.

However, if you are double-stuffing this panel, here is the takeaway: they have quadplex breakers with a 2-pole breaker in the center and two individual breakers or another 2-pole on the outside. MWBCs can only go on the inside 2-pole, never the outside pair. Even if the outer ones have handle ties, which some do, those handle ties are merely decoration and do not provide common maintenance shutoff, which MWBCs require. They are labeled as such.

If you have a GE Qline panel with the cruciform bus bars which allow half width breakers, then you may use the GE half-width 2-pole breakers for an MWBC. These look like a "duplex/twin/double-stuff" breaker, but are factory handle-tied and also have common trip. You must never, never use an untied double-stuff.

• "it's just near ground if everything is working right and properly connected. " which is what makes shared neutrals so insidious. When you test with your meter before disconnecting you don't read any significant voltage, then you disconnect the neutral and suddenly it rises up to mains voltage. Sep 21, 2019 at 21:55
• The outside pair of common/common quadplexes is handle-tied for common maintenance shutoff AIUI.... Sep 21, 2019 at 22:16

Handle ties are used to tie together 2 like-rated 120V breakers, one on each phase of your panel, to control a 240V circuit. A 240V appliance will not operate correctly if only one phase is connected. The wiring is set up so that the tied-together breakers serve a 240V circuit. (2 hot lines, each on separate phases, and a common neutral.)

If you're posting "why would I use handle ties?... I would just as soon remove them" questions to a home improvement board, you should not be working in your breaker panel. Hire an electrician, full stop. Some municipalities REQUIRE a licensed electrician to work inside a breaker panel. Even in places where it's legal to do the work yourself, it should be inspected to make sure the work passes your electrical code.

If you don't know what you're doing, you can kill yourself, or burn your house down.