I currently have a 12A EVSE that takes either 120V or 240V and uses a normal three-prong (NEMA 5-15) plug. I am looking to install a 240V outlet on a 50A circuit breaker to use with this EVSE, but I'm wondering which receptacle to use with this new outlet. I've ruled out a NEMA 5-15/5-20 receptacle, so I will need an adapter to use my current EVSE for any outlet I install. Would it make more sense to install a 14-50R receptacle, a 6-50 receptacle, or some other type?
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EV charging is special. The EV can actually "dial the amps" to whatever the circuit can handle, but something must tell it what the amp limit is. That is what EVSE's do.
When I originally wrote this, I did not realize OP had a portable EVSE with a variety of adapter plugs.
Those adapter plugs are special; they have a 4th pin on the EVSE side which tells the EVSE the ampacity of the socket. (which the EVSE tells the car). Using hinky adapters will cause the car to draw the wrong current, causing problems like nuisance trips or fire-based detection of Zinsco and Challenger breakers lol. When using these portable EVSEs, the ampacity of the circuit MUST actually match the socket type.
That said, it's perfectly fine to "fool" the EVSE with regards to voltage only, which is what this discusses with OP. But really, the right thing to do is get the right connector end. But let's say you have a 120V/30A TT30 socket, and they don't make one of those. It's OK to "cheater" the 10-30 or 14-30 plug to fit onto a TT30. That will tell the car "30A" (correct) and surprise, the voltage is only 120V - but the car knows what to do with that.
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NEMA 6-15 and you're done
Outlets aren't that expensive and neither are plain breakers. Simply fit the correct one. And the correct 15A or 20A breaker per NEC 210.21.
The third one.
If your wiring is 12 AWG or larger copper and your breaker is 20A, you can fit a NEMA 6-20 instead.
Now, noting this thing is dual voltage, the right way to deal with that is have it have a removable inlet (the way a PC does) that takes an IEC connector. Then you simply change the cord to what you're plugging into. However you can make a NEMA 5-15R to 6-15P cheater cord if you really want to. If someone finds a 6" long cord with a funny plug on it, that's a big fat hint to be careful what they plug in.
If you are thinking of wiring up a universal future adapter socket, you can't. What you can do is run 6/3 cable (or #8 THHN in conduit) to a large 4-11/16" square junction box. The large 4-11/16" square box gives you the room for big wires and splices. At this point you can install any of these pairs:
- NEMA 6-15 receptacle with a 15A or 20A breaker
- NEMA 6-20 receptacle with a 20A breaker
- NEMA 6-30 or 14-30 with a 30A breaker
- NEMA 6-50 or 14-50 with a 50A breaker
Note that except for a 15A receptacle on a 20A breaker, the receptacle size must always match the breaker size. And of course you can't exceed wire maximums.
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Thanks! Why would you recommend installing a 6-20 and adapting to 5-15/5-20, rather than installing a 14-50 and adapting to 5-15/5-20?– palswimSep 13, 2019 at 4:25
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1Yes, for many reasons. A 14-50 is not an option unless you install much larger wires and a 50A breaker. (Breakers MUST match receptacles amp ratings except a 15A receptacle is allowed on a 20A breaker only). Even then, it would fail to protect the 15A device. Sep 13, 2019 at 4:41
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Ah, I mentioned the 14-50 and 6-50 receptacles in the question, but I updated the question to make it explicit that I will install on a 50A circuit.– palswimSep 13, 2019 at 5:07
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@palswim OK, then you'd just need to change the breaker to match the receptacle. The smallest receptacles and breakers may not be willing to talk to a #6 or #8 wire, so you'd have to pigtail that. Sep 13, 2019 at 5:11
Eventually, I decided to wire the outlet as a NEMA 14-50 (hot-hot-neutral-ground) rather than a NEMA 6-50 (hot-hot-ground) because the I can re-wire to a 6-50 easily enough by capping the neutral wire and from my limited research, I found that more EVSE chargers used NEMA 14-50 rather than NEMA 6-50.
As far as adapting the outlet to my current charger, creating a NEMA 14-50 to a NEMA 5-20 homemade extension cord (cheater cable, as one helpful answer named it) did not pose too much difficulty. Editor's note: This is a Code violation and creates significant danger, as the 50A breaker will not trip when needed to protect a 20A device. UL listed adapters are made, which have internal 20A fuses to solve that problem, or a homemade one could be built with a fuse.
My EVSE (E346031) only draws 12A. A short would trip a 20A breaker or a 50A breaker, so I had no fear about overheating and the extension cord. For any other EVSE, I would probably have to create a different extension cord. Editor's note: No, it would not trip a 50A breaker. That's the problem! This also doesn't address time-to-trip in an inverse-time overload condition; a 50A breaker would trip far too late.
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2I find it odd that EVSE chargers use 14-50s since they have no use whatsoever for neutral.... Sep 24, 2019 at 23:54
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Be aware that a 14-50 to 5-20 cheater cord is not to code, because (1) an appliance cord designed to plug into a 5-20 outlet need only be capable of sustaining 20 amps before melting or catching fire, and (2) your breaker will only pop over 50 amps, which leaves plenty of room for a cable-melting fire-starting fault to occur. It's not common to see a fault draw 40 amps without being a dead short, but it is possible, and such a fault would almost surely burn down your house, so be careful and never leave a cheater cord unattended in use. Sep 26, 2019 at 18:04
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(Incidentally, you CAN adapt 14-50 to 5-20 in a way that IS to code, by getting an adapter that has an appropriate 20A fuse or breaker in it. Although I can't find one, and I can find LOTS of the not-to-code kind. Home Depot even seems to sell them, which confuses me.) Sep 26, 2019 at 18:10
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"A short would trip a 20A breaker or a 50A breaker" FALSE. The trip curves are quite different, and there's a big "fail zone" in there where you are totally unprotected. Frankly, depending on the wire size and length, the wires resistance may be high enough to preclude any possibility of an instant-trip on a 50A breaker. So it would just sit there and burn until the thermal trip eventually popped, which might be "never" if it's drawing <67A. This is bad advice and a Code violation. Dec 3, 2021 at 20:56
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Wait, are you saying you are putting 240V to a NEMA 5-15 socket? They make UL-listed 14-50 to NEMA 5-15 adapters; UL approves them because they have internal fuses and present 120V to the socket and not 240V. Mar 18, 2022 at 22:42