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In my entryway, there is a lighting fixture box that is sticking out of the ceiling drywall. (See attached image below) The box is 4 inch by 4 inch. I assume that it came with some kind of ceiling light that included the box as part of the hanging fixture. I assume this because I can't find any ceiling light in stores today that would fit over it. But I also can't find any ceiling light that comes with a box like this.

When I bought the house, there was no light here, but now that I am selling it, I want to put a light up. If I can find a light that works with the existing box, that would make things easier. Otherwise I guess I have to take that box out and put in something else to put up a new light.

Anyone ever seen lights that use this kind of box for hanging? Is this more of an old style light that is no longer made? All the lights I see now are either recessed or flush/semi-flush which wont work with this box as it sticks out of the ceiling.

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    @DanielGriscom I disagree that it is a shopping question. He’s asking if fixtures were made that would fit this situation, not where to buy one. My opinion is that the previous owner hacked something together. – DoxyLover Jul 25 at 18:09
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    Looks like a lazy retrofit (rather than cutting into the drywall and messing with insulation). I'd put a flat ceiling rose over it and mount a simple dome fixture through that. – isherwood Jul 25 at 19:03
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    Looks like the wires are loose and they just routed them through the knock out without any conduit. – Platinum Goose Jul 25 at 19:26
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    @Platinum Goose wow. i didn't even notice that. I'm not much of a DIYer, but the outer sheathing is supposed to go all the way into the box before separating out the wires, right? I guess I should get an electrician in to check this out. – L Fitz Jul 25 at 20:47
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    Yes there should be a fitting on the box to secure it. May be a simple fix if there is enough slack, if you're not comfortable with electric then an electrician is the way to go. – Platinum Goose Jul 25 at 20:56
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...ever seen lights that use this kind of box for hanging?

No, because that box is not made for directly attaching anything to it. The box needs an adapter ring attached to hang a standard fixture (or to mount switches, receptacles, etc.)

By itself that is just a junction box called a "4-S" (for 4" square). Look for a 4-S to 4-O plaster ring.

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It goes without saying that it should not be sticking out of the ceiling like that.

  • Actually, protruding/exposed boxes are merely an aesthetic issue :) Code simply cares if the box is set back excessively, due to the potential for sparks to get into the wall and ignite materials there in the set-back case. – ThreePhaseEel Jul 27 at 4:43

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