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I have 1950s solid wood internal doors with rim latches. I want to replace the door knobs with lever handles. The doors are 33mm thick, with narrow (95mm) rails, and have rim latches.

I've been told it's unwise to drill out the stile in line with the lock rail (where the handle currently is) for a tubular or sash lock, as this will remove most of the tenon and weaken the door.

Just swapping the door knobs for lever handles on the existing rim latches won't work as the spindle hole is set too far in from the edge of the door for a lever. The same is true for all of the replacement rim latches I've found. I want the spindle to be roughly where the keyhole currently is.

Any ideas for the best solution? Is it ok to fit a tubular latch? Or are rim latches with the spindle hole near the edge available? four panel interior door rim latch

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If the latch is in good condition, you could reconsider just replacing the knobs with new lever handles. Yes, they'll be "inboard" (towards the center of the door), but you'll maintain the hardware.

Replacing the latch hardware

New rim latches are available, but they're rare in the United States.

You'll typically replace the latch assembly (on the door) as well as the striker (on the jamb) to ensure you have alignment between the two.

You need a mechanism which is furnished with a square hole, as well as a lever set with a matching square spindle (shaft).

It may be more typical to source these from Europe. Here is one example of one that's currently available from a global hardware manufacturer:

Union 1209 latch assembly, fair use photograph Union latch model 1209 from Assa Abloy

This is designed to be reversible, for either right-inswing or left-inswing doors. The upper striker appears to be a "privacy lock", for example for a bathroom or bedroom -- the British may call this a "snib lock".*

Then using a lever set with square shaft, you're all set. A "set screw" will hold the levers in place. (Apparently in Britain a "set screw" is known as a "grub screw"!) One lever mates to the latch box directly. The other uses a small trim plate (escutcheon), as you'll see in the photo below.

Typically European latches use a 7.6 mm spindle and 8 mm hole (source), and antique hardware may use a 7 mm spindle.

European suppliers are used to furnishing matching compatible handle sets and can provide the correct length of square spindle as required.

Here are some current sources (2019) that you might use for starters:

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eBay UK, Doorhandleparts.com, Locks Online Limited, Timothy Wood Limited, Duffels Locks, and find tons of others by searching "Buy Union 1209 latch" or "Buy rim latch UK".

*⚠️ Caution about the privacy lock: In the USA, local laws or building codes may require a way to override this lock, for example using a small hairpin, so you don't have to kick the door in if the person inside becomes incapacitated or can't open the lock by themselves. Verify that the lock you buy has this feature, or get a version without the snib-lock if needed.

A word about "backset"

Your question asked for a rim latch "with the spindle hole near the edge of the door". This dimension is called the backset.

On a modern, tubular lock, there are usually different choices of backset depending on the door, and hardware that's sold "off the shelf" is often built to be adaptable so the store doesn't have to carry multiple sizes.

Backset dimensions of tubular locks, and the Union rim latch, are shown here:

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It looks like the latch in the original photo has a backset of around 6—8". If you replace it with a new rim latch, you could obtain a latch with much smaller backset. Here are some examples:

I don't think you can go much smaller than 1-1/2", since this position sets up how close to the doorjamb the knob, and your hand, have to go!

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  • thanks whiskeychief; I know I could put a lever on the existing latch, but I think it would look and feel odd so far in from the edge. I have been searching for rim latches but not found any with the spindle at the outside edge.
    – aucuparia
    Jun 27, 2019 at 13:27
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    The dimension that you’re looking for is called the “backset.” Here is a lower profile one with 1.5” backset: houseofhardware.com whereas here at Amazon.com is one w/ 3-1/16” backset. Jun 27, 2019 at 15:10
  • It looks like the one you currently have on your door has a backset of about 6-8”, so it’s considerably longer, and that could justify a replacement for aesthetic reasons. I don’t think you’ll find a backset less than 1.5” is available. Jun 27, 2019 at 15:24
  • Acuparia, is there more that you’re looking for here? Typical backset for an ordinary handle is in the 2” range and it’s unlikely to look normal with much less. Jul 2, 2019 at 0:55
  • Sorry - been away on holiday. The short backset latches were partly what I was looking for. Can you edit that in to your answer and I'll accept it.
    – aucuparia
    Jul 15, 2019 at 6:55
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A second opinion from a carpenter has cleared this up. Drilling out the side of the door for a sash lock: A sash lock

would indeed weaken the door significantly. But a modern tubular latch: A tubular latch

requires the removal of far less material and would be fine to fit to these doors. Alternatively, short-backset rim latches are available (if you look hard enough) as whiskeychief has said in his/her answer.

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