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I always get some kind of flaw when applying window film. Obviously I've read the instructions, watched diy videos, and even asked for advice before. I have changed up my technique as a result but I'm still getting flaws. Here are some pictures of my progress and current methodology. I’m getting better but the final results are still far from perfect.

  1. The workspace (a rough cut piece of particle board covered in duct tape) enter image description here

  2. Glass onto film (picture was taken the day before when I hadn’t taped the particle board yet) enter image description here

  3. Ready to start smoothing! enter image description here

  4. Done (with flaws) enter image description here

You can’t see it in the pictures but there are some flaws. Flaw type 1 is just regular air bubbles that you can press down on to eliminate. Flaw type 2 is a “hard” air bubble. I assume flaw type 2 is from a spec of dust but I don’t see any dust when I get my eye really close to it. …it just looks like an air bubble. Finally, flaw type 3 is the rainbow discoloration on the film. I had assumed this would go away when I wiped the mirror down with glass cleaner but it’s still there. You can actually see this a little bit in the picture. But in real life it’s unbearable, at least to me.

I have a USB microscope which I might use to try and get a better idea of what’s going on with flaw type 2. I will probably try poking the flaw type 2 that is on this mirror with a needle to see if I can remove it that way. But if/when that doesn’t work I guess I’m just going to keep trying?

I’m really not sure what to do if the problem is dust. I realized that when I was cutting the film around the glass that the razor knife was digging into the particle board and probably bringing up some particles. So on this mirror I used scissors to avoid bringing up particles from the particle board. Also, if you’ll notice all my blocks are 4x4s wrapped in duct tape. Before I began working I thoroughly swept every surface and hit the whole area with compressed air. …of course I could be attracting dust in some way that I’m not considering. IDK. I just feel REALLY bad at this. Any words of advice encouragement?

btw, I have been looking on Amazon and they want a TON of money for this. As much as $100 for a 12x24" sheet of two way glass! Of course there are cheaper options but I don't know if they look good enough. I’m basically looking for perfection. That is, no flaws or warping or discoloration at all. You know, like a mirror.

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  • FYI the film type is GILA Heat Control Platinum.
    – user875234
    Mar 22, 2019 at 13:20
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    I did not see a squeegee in your tools and description. This an essential tool for applying wet film. I would also suggest that duct tape would be one of the worst coverings you could put on a work surface. The residual glue edges along each strip are a dust magnet and the surface of the stuff is not going to help in any way to make dust stay away.
    – Michael Karas
    Mar 22, 2019 at 15:52
  • @MichaelKaras I didn't want to use the dukt tape like that but I just could NOT get that particle board free of dust. Next try tonight I will replace the dukt tape with wax paper. I somehow have been calling my yellow card a squeegee without knowing it isn't a proper squeegee. So yep, I'll get a proper squeegee and use that tonight too. I found another video ("Install Gila Heat Control Window Film") that helps too. For one, I'm just going to focus less on the type 2 specs and try to pick them out the next day. But obviously having 0 type 2s is ideal.
    – user875234
    Mar 22, 2019 at 16:05
  • @MichaelKaras any thoughts on the rainbow color? Theoretically I'll eventually get good enough that I can get the film on flat but I still don't know how to handle the discoloration. It was on the film before I did anything to it. Maybe I have bad film?
    – user875234
    Mar 22, 2019 at 16:10
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    The rainbow color could be the result of a number of things. (1) an oil coating on the film, (2) the film being stretched at some point, (3) some type of wax substance on the film or glass or (4) uneven spacing between the film and the glass causing an light diffraction in a prismatic manner.
    – Michael Karas
    Mar 22, 2019 at 16:17

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From my days installing car film, I have two basic suggestions.

  1. Get off the floor. You can't work down there without dust being blown into your workpiece every time you move. Get up on a table in a room without a lot of human or pet traffic, where the air remains still. Most installations are on the window in a wall anyway.

  2. Use plenty of solution. You don't want things drying out before you have a chance to squeeze out all the air bubbles. They shouldn't be difficult to move if you have things wet enough. Using more will also tend to flush out dust. Per one comment on the product page: "1/4 tsp of tear free no conditioner added baby shampoo per 1qt of water works better than the $3.97 per bottle of Gila spray."

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  • Alright, I can do both of those. Will post results once I have them.
    – user875234
    Mar 22, 2019 at 13:39
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    Another suggestion that is inherent on car tinting - make the glass more vertical. Less surface area for dust to fall on if the glass is standing up. And I haven't used 2 way mirror film, but with other films, there can be "water spots" or haze that can take a day or so to dry out and clear up. These are not bubbles, just more of a... milky or hazy look.
    – JPhi1618
    Mar 22, 2019 at 15:44
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    Another thing when applying film of this type is to not lay it flat or stuck to the whole surface at once. The best process is to work in the vertical position as described by JPhi1618 and then apply the film in a gradual manner from the top down using a squeegee to smooth out as you go.
    – Michael Karas
    Mar 22, 2019 at 16:11
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I took everyone's advice and improvised on the rest. I've got two of them drying/curing right now and I think they are going to come out well. The instructions say it takes a minimum of seven days to completely cure so I'll do a final edit then.

This is how I did it. My glass was not attached to anything so I had to lay it flat. Aside from that I'm sure I'm making a lot of mistakes but this is what's gotten me the best results so far.

Workspace:

An old IKEA computer desk wrapped in wax paper.

workspace

Workspace 2

All of the tools that will be needed for the job are sitting in a semi-clean spot nearby.

workspace2

Setup the film

Separate the backing film off all four corners. Tape the bottom layer of the film to the wax paper as best you can.

separate film

Join the glass to the film

First clean the glass, then remove the backing film while spraying the glass and the film with your solution (apply solution liberally). Then lift the glass using your suction cups and place it straight down onto the film.

join the glass to the film

Cut out the film 1" greater all around

cut it out

Flip it around

Just carefully lift it up. Most likely it will stick pretty close to the mirror. Once it's in the air flip it around and put it back on the table. Finally, put it up on some blocks (my blocks are wrapped in dukt tape so wood isn't directly against the glass).

flip it around

Squeegee

You may need to lift the film up and gently tug towards you while lowering it back down onto the glass to straighten it out. But once it's fairly flat spray down the top of the film with your solution and give it a few good squeegees. It'll smooth out fairly quick. As a final step I gave it a final pass with the yellow "hard card", which I guess is analogous to a credit card. Now I'm just waiting for it to dry...

But before you do any of that make sure to open the package in the store and gently hold the film up to the light. If you see any rainbowy discolorations do not use that for a mirror. The only color you should see is silver. I emailed Gila about the rainbowy discoloration and their response was that it's hard to avoid. So I think it's fair to peek inside the package to make sure you don't blow $40 on a roll of film that won't make a good mirror.

Also, I think the Gila Mirror Privacy Window Film (purlpe box) is probably better than the Platinum or Titanium window film (green box) for use as a mirror but they look pretty similar to me.

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