I am trying to install my ecobee 3 light but the previous thermostat did not use any c wire. Fortunately, there was an unused wire in the wall and I would like to set it up as a c-wire. The problem is that I have no idea where to connect it to our boiler. We have a Burnham Series 2 boiler, which uses Intelligent Hydronic Control (Honeywell S9361A2072) and a Transformer (40 VA, Honeywell AT140D1297).

Is it possible to connect a c-wire to the boiler?

I did try to find information in the technical user manual, which includes the diagram below, but couldn't find anything that describes the different ports/slots. It does say that "For zone valve wiring, a separate 24V transformer is required rather than attempting to use the boiler mounted control". But I think that is unrelated.

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  • The manual for the control unit on the Burnham Series 2 (Honeywell S9361A2072) mentions that "A common ground is required for the S93XX and the main burner. The 24V “secondary” plug internally grounds one side of the trans- former. Any auxiliary controls or limits must not be in the grounded leg. In addition, the appliance should be earth-grounded." Not sure what that means though. Jan 22 '19 at 2:05

Tap the white wire in the control harness

If you look closely at the wiring diagram for your boiler -- there is a 9 pin connector with a harness connected to it that connects to the thermostat wiring junction, the gas valve, and the limit circuit. The white wire in this harness, while technically the gas valve common or MV/PV terminal, is a 24VAC common (C) wire, and can be tapped to serve other needs in the system. In fact, in the wiring diagram, it is shown running to the limit circuit extension plug as well for use by low-water cutoff or equivalent safety devices.

So, with power to the boiler off, we can cut the white wire bundled with the two blue wires in the harness to that extension connector and splice both of the cut ends together with a wirenut, giving us a bundle we can splice our thermostat C wire into. Install your Ecobee, turn the boiler back on, and enjoy!

As an aside, the reference in the control manual to not putting "auxiliary controls or limits" in the grounded leg means that no limit switches or control switches can be installed in a way that breaks the 24VAC return path from the control board to the transformer -- it is not a concern here.

  • Thanks! Just to make sure I get this right: P5 is the 9 pin connector. P5-8 with the two white wires is a 24VAC common (C). You suggest that I take the following steps: 1) Cut white wire from P5-8 to limit circuit extension plug, 2) use wirenut to combine ends of wire and add a third wire to the nut that goes to Ecobee. Jan 22 '19 at 3:22
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    @user2503795 -- that's exactly what I'm after, yes Jan 22 '19 at 3:23

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