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There is corrosion forming on the inlet and TP valve connections to my water heater; the outlet seems to be fine. More specifically, the nipples are what is corroding. I have read the copper pipe and galvanized steel will cause this, and I assumed this was the issue. Upon further investigation, "Dielectric" is clearly readable on the nipple labels so they are not steel I guess.

I thought that these nipples were produced to avoid this exact problem. Why are they still corroding? The inlet nipple has corroded to the point that there is now a tiny drip present.

Edited for adding pics below. I am suspecting that maybe the nipple is corroding from the outside?

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  • Are there any metal clad electrical cables coming into contact with the pipe? That is a very common cause of accelerated ferrous oxidation.
    – Tim Post
    May 15, 2012 at 15:19
  • Not that I am aware of in immediate view, but I will check when I get home tonight. I don't think I have any of that in the home though; just sheathed wiring I think.
    – Evil Elf
    May 15, 2012 at 15:26
  • Well, worth a check, but if your whole house is wired with non metallic cable .. probably just a shot in the dark :)
    – Tim Post
    May 15, 2012 at 15:28
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    So you've got two different types of metal touching each other? That'll trigger a reaction right there.
    – The Evil Greebo
    May 15, 2012 at 16:45
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    Can you post some pictures? Somebody might see something you missed.
    – Tester101
    May 16, 2012 at 13:54

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On second review of the photos, I don't think that the corrosion is due to electrolysis. The dielectric nipples should be adequate to prevent that and there is no sign of issues with the hot connection. As for the T&P connection, if the copper drain pipe does not come into contact with anything then there is no closed circuit for electrolysis to take place.

It looks more like corrosion due to a small leak over a long period of time. A leak that would not have always been noticeable, but would slowly get worse over time. You can see where the water has been dripping and there is signs of calcium buildup.

Like I mentioned in a previous comment, I would inspect the sacrificial anode rod and replace it if needed. As for the cold connection, you could:

  • cut the copper line and unscrew the copper section from the nipple
  • brush the nipple with a steel wire brush to remove the buildup
  • reinstall the copper section using teflon tape and a joint compound on the nipple
  • reconnect the copper line that you cut with a shark bite coupling or a solder coupling if you know how

You could do the same with the T&P connection, just cut the vertical down pipe so that you can remove the copper pipe from the T&P and then remove the T&P, clean and reinstall.

You mentioned that the tank was installed in 2006, so it would be nearing the end of its life expectancy (most residential warranties are for 5 to 6 years) so I would keep an eye on the tank for any leaks.

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  • I think this is the case. I will be checking the anode rod and replacing the nipple and copper on the inlet in the next week or two. I will check back in with pics and results. I suspect that the corrosion is just on the outside of the nipple, although I wouldn't be surprised if the nipple threads have started to corrode away as well.
    – Evil Elf
    May 21, 2012 at 12:56
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I'm thinking that the installation is missing this dialectic union. Your "dialectric" nipple has an ABS plastic coating inside a galvanized steel pipe. If the dialectic union were used in conjunction with this nipple it would provide electrical isolation from the copper - galvanize connection. This document explains this in better detail.

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  • So, two devices for the same purpose? I am amazed at how little standardization there seems to be on this topic. Plumbers in forums everywhere saying they do different things. There has to be a correct method I would think.
    – Evil Elf
    May 18, 2012 at 19:36
  • Not two devices for the same thing, they both are used together. The nipple is a dialectic on the inside only. You need the union to isolate the currents from the galvanized to copper connection.
    – SteveR
    May 18, 2012 at 19:42
  • That makes sense. I am comfortable doing these repairs myself, but how do I know if the inside of the heater is good shape? Check the anode rod?
    – Evil Elf
    May 18, 2012 at 20:00
  • Yes, check the anode rod.
    – pdd
    May 18, 2012 at 20:42
  • You say the heater is 6yrs old, you should get another 6yrs out of it. Maybe more if you check, replace the anode rod and drain it once a year.
    – SteveR
    May 19, 2012 at 16:32
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Leave it alone. The inlet and outlet threads on your water heater are plastic. It's a one time deal, you've got to do it right the first time. Wait until you need to replace the water heater. Use all copper next time. Mineral deposits can be sign of leakage, but sometimes the deposits seal the leak.

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Looks like it was teflon taped, tightened to tank, then soldered , cooking the upper adapter sealant. I try to prep a soldered piece with a copper extension 2-3 inches long soldered on. When i use a coupling to make final solder connection, I wrap a wet rag on lower parts to keep teflon cool. I would be tempted to try a stainless nipple at tank.

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"Dielectric nipples" are a marketing term for the most part. They are NOT truly dielectric, because you DO have the dissimilar metals in contact with each other. What these nipples to is prevent the worst EFFECT of having dissimilar pipes in contact, that of the pipe closing off from the INSIDE with corrosion buildup, which you can't see so you don't know it's happening until the water stops flowing. That's because it has a PEX (high temp. plastic) liner on the inside. But because the dissimilar metals are in contact, the corrosion happens on the OUTSIDE, as it is in your case. However, now you can SEE that and replace them when it happens.

The only thing that stops the electrical flow is a dielectric UNION that puts a non-conductive material between the metals. Even then, if the water has a lot of dissolved minerals in it, internal corrosion and blockage can still happen because the electrical flow takes place through the water. So the best solution is BOTH the union and the sleeved nipples.

Or like I said, when you see the external corrosion, consider it a warning and just replace them. From the photos you posted however, I don't see any kind of union fitting anywhere, so replacing them is going to be difficult. If there isn't one ahead of those pipes somewhere out of the photo, you are going to have to cut or at least de-solder the pipes. Not a great idea for the uninitiated. But if you do, put in a union so you don't have to do it next time, and if you do THAT, make it a dielectric union.

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It is electrolysis from two dissimilar metals. You have copper pipe in contact with galvanized steel pipe. A small electrical current is created (Google "thermocouple"). There is no dielectric union between these two metals.

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  • -1 This is the same as SteveR's answer.
    – BMitch ♦
    May 29, 2013 at 19:59

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