I have a spool of CD 12R 12 gage stranded wire, Standard Motor Products, spiffy spool.

Is this wire suitable to replace the wire from L2 to the controller in an electric oven?

The oven is the one in: Electric oven: Bake and Broil not Working and electric oven bake element gets warm but does not get hot.

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  • Can you read the printing on the wire off to us? Also, can you provide that printing from the wire already in the oven? Commented Jun 15, 2018 at 7:51
  • @ThreePhaseEel The wire has red insulation with no printing on the wire. The oven wire shows ilegibleAL ELECTRIC L FLAMENOL SI 53076 105C
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    Commented Jun 15, 2018 at 17:56
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Use a dual-rated (TFFN/AWM) wire suitable for 105°C

The bad news is you have the wrong wire (UL listed wires are marked, and your replacement wire isn't, so it's no good). The good news is that we know two things here:

  1. This wire is replacing wire within an appliance, so UL-listed Appliance Wiring Material (AWM) is the correct family of things to use
  2. We have the old wire's temperature rating (105°C)

Thus, we can safely use a dual-rated 16AWG stranded wire (TFFN/AWM) that has a 105°C rating when used in an AWM application -- most TFFN sold today will be of the dual-rated type, but double-check the printing on the wire when you're buying it to make sure.

  • This is correct if it requires 12AWG wire. But how do you know that is the right size wire? Commented Jun 17, 2018 at 4:11
  • @manassehkatz -- yeah, I was kind of going off him buying the right size wire -- following up in the comments :) Commented Jun 17, 2018 at 4:20
  • I did look first for a manual, but I couldn't find one quickly/easily to check a parts diagram. I think this is a pre-internet oven. Commented Jun 17, 2018 at 4:29
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    @manassehkatz -- The oven was installed in 1981 when the house was built.
    – user78602
    Commented Jun 17, 2018 at 23:23

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