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molding junction

  • There is no wall stud behind the ends of these two sections of molding. (Otherwise, of course, I would use nails.)
  • The surface behind them is painted gypsum wall board.
  • The molding on the right is reasonably secure; however, I suspect that if I rely on it to hold the left molding against the wall it will be pulled away from the wall.

wider view of molding

More information:

  • I can replace the piece of molding on the right to eliminate the gap.
  • Both pieces are installed on the same section of flat wall.
  • The trim material is MDF.
  • I doubt I have the skill the remove the right piece of trim without breaking it. I haven't enough of this material left to replace it.
  • Most important: I'm referring to the fact that there's a gap between the wall and the molding on the left but not between the wall and the molding on the right.

Questions:

  • Is there an adhesive that would hold the left stick of molding to the painted surface behind it?
  • Is there some form of mechanical fastener that would work?

Thanks for your help, including better ideas.

  • Hard to tell from the photo - Is there actually a gap because one of the pieces is too short, or is the gap just because they're not tight against the wall and each other? (can you gently push them together, or is there always a gap?) What material are the trim pieces? Also - are these on an inside corner, or is this a totally flat surface? Can we see the rest of the pieces of trim for some context? – dwizum Apr 10 '18 at 18:54
  • Are you able to remove the trim pieces to implement a solution, or do you want to leave them in place? – dwizum Apr 10 '18 at 18:55
  • @dwizum: Please see under 'More information.' – Bill Bell Apr 10 '18 at 19:18
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I added some comments to get clarity on the solution, so I'm going to answer with some generic options you could combine or use individually based on your particular solution. These are roughly sorted "best to worst" in terms of my preference for creating the best finished look.

  1. Remove and discard the piece on the left. If the wall behind it is not flat, replace it with a flexible molding (ie flexible polyurethane molding) - attach to the wall with construction adhesive and nails to hold in place until the adhesive cures.
  2. If the gap is because it's too short, replace it with a correctly sized piece.
  3. If you can remove both pieces but don't want to replace either, or the above options don't sound ideal, remove both pieces. Assuming they're wood or another material that will hold screws, use a pocket screw or two in the back of the pieces to hold that seam tightly together. Reinstall as if it was one single piece of molding.
  4. Easiest, but ugliest: Leave as-is. Use paintable latex caulk to hide the seam. Paint afterwards.

Edited to add, based on your edit above: If you don't want to remove the pieces, there won't be much you can do. Construction adhesive (common brand: Liquid Nails) may hold it down but it will be challenging to get it in there without removing the piece from the wall. Similarly, if you had that piece off, you could put a drywall anchor in the wall, then use a trim screw to hold the piece down. You mentioned the trim is mdf, which doesn't hold fasteners well, so the pocket screw idea is out (although that would require the pieces to be off the wall as well.)

In short: Without removing or replacing the pieces, there may not be much to do other than try your best to hide it with painter's caulk.

  • As often happens on these sites, the OP doesn't think to mention what's obvious to him. So I've marked it 'most important' now. – Bill Bell Apr 10 '18 at 19:22
  • Also, belated thanks for helping me to clarify my question. – Bill Bell Apr 10 '18 at 19:39
  • The clarifications were useful - I'm interested to see if there are other creative ideas. It seems like fighting with trim (and other square/straight materials) is a constant battle in older houses where nothing remains true/flat/square. – dwizum Apr 10 '18 at 19:43
  • I used drywall anchors. Thanks for that. When I pulled on the longer piece of trim it started to fall off. So much for my worries about breaking it. :) The two anchors might now be the most solid part of the house. – Bill Bell Apr 13 '18 at 20:20

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