Good evening, I decided to start a kitchen reno in our new house and wanted to take out this wall. I assumed it was not load bearing as it runs parallel to the joists, but after taking drywall off I was surprised to see 3 back to back 2x4 beside the opening and 2 2x4 at the ceiling.

I would still assume this is not load bearing and instead a builder going over board(I've never seen this in previous renos) but thought I'd ask here to see if anyone has more experience.

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I also assume that the wall in connects to is load bearing. I am hoping to put a beam and 2 posts across and making it a half wall, does anyone know the span I'm allowed between posts for something like this? Or what size beam? There is currently no beam in the wall, it is just a normal 2x4 wall from what i can see. The joists are 2x8 and 16 inches center to center. They span around 30 feet across the house. Maybe they were engineered and it isn't a load bearing wall?

Here is a picture of the roof framing, if it helps:

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There is another one of those little walls on the other side of attic as Well, and the wall below is basically right in between the two.


  • Looks like you will need to keep the major load-bearing pole (with the sandwiched boards. The single boards can probably be removed. Might want to have someone do a walk-through with you for an up close and personal estimate of the effects of the changes.
    – SDsolar
    Oct 17, 2017 at 10:03
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    You're going to want to have an engineer/architect take a look. They should be able to tell you if it's safe to remove the wall, as well as design a beam that can be used in the other wall. While it may cost a few dollars to have a pro take a look, it's far cheaper than repairing a collapsed house.
    – Tester101
    Oct 17, 2017 at 11:42
  • Thanks, any rough idea on what this should cost before I start calling around?
    – LBJ33
    Oct 17, 2017 at 13:08


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