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Picture the scene: I walk into a room and flick the light switch. Nothing happens. I grobble around in the dark to where a baby bottle warmer is plugged into a normal outlet and turn the warmer on. All of a sudden the lights come on.

Now if I turn off the baby warmer the light remains on. If I go and turn the light off and then turn it back on again after a couple of seconds, it turns on perfectly fine like a normal light.

If I turn the light off for a little while (something like 15 - 20 minutes) and then turn it on again I am back to the original situation of it not working and me tripping over the various rocking baby things strewn around the place.

Does anyone know why this is the case?

I am assuming that the outlets have been wired into the lighting circuit, which is why there is this relationship, but why does the light start working as normal as long as something else in the room has been turned on and off?

Should I call an exorcist?

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    No, you should call an electrician ;)
    – ChrisF
    Jan 27, 2012 at 12:36
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    Florescent lights?
    – Tester101
    Jan 27, 2012 at 12:53
  • Not florescent lights - regular bulbs
    – kmp
    Jan 27, 2012 at 17:25
  • If you are handy replace the light switch. They are cheap and maybe the old switch might have burnt or damaged or damaged contacts.
    – lqlarry
    Jan 28, 2012 at 1:58

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This is NOT normal.

If I had to guess, I would agree with Steve; there is a connection somewhere in this circuit that is just barely loose, and is requiring an electrical arc to complete the circuit. The light bulb just isn't enough, but turn on that power-hungry heating element and the circuit is now drawing enough for the arcing to be the "easiest path". Arcing across a gap produces heat which helps to swell the metal parts in the connection, drawing them closer together so this doesn't occur once the circuit has "warmed up".

If I were a betting man, I would put a nickel on your home having aluminum electrical wiring. Aluminum is more susceptible to this expansion and contraction while under load, which is why copper is used in virtually all new construction. Aluminum isn't dangerous, per se, you just need to know what it will do over time and plan for it; terminals should be screwed down very tightly, a little slack should be given in the box and along wire runs, and of course Al-rated switches, outlets and receptacles should be used.

Before calling an electrician there are some things you can try yourself. With the power off at the breaker, open up the switch box and outlets, and clamp down all the wiring terminals on both switch and outlet. If the outlet or switch seems very old, beat-up, worn, rusted, or generally untrustworthy, replace it. If you do have aluminum wire (should be real easy to tell), it will require Al-rated switches and outlets; they can handle the higher heat, the expansion and contraction of aluminum as it heats, and are made of metals that won't react galvanically with aluminum. DO NOT use switches rated for "copper or copper-clad wire only"; the switch or outlet will say exactly that on the back of the switch body, and will have a circle and line drawn through the letters "Al".

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  • Thank you so much for the detailed answer - I will try what you suggest!
    – kmp
    Jan 28, 2012 at 9:31
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Sounds like a loose connection in either the outlet box or the switch box. I would replace both the outlet and switch. If you're not familiar with electrical work, I suggest calling an electrician. A problem like this can lead to arcing and a fire.

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  • Thanks for the answer! I am definately calling an electrician!
    – kmp
    Jan 27, 2012 at 17:27

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