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enter image description here I've recently added power to an outbuilding and wired in a light circuit. While adding another light fixture, the wire broke at the fixture so I was rewiring it. With the switch and breaker off, as I was connecting the wires to the fixture, I was shocked. I measured before the shock and after, no voltage. It's happened several times while rewiring the same fixture. (added) Not sure if I touch neutral but definitely felt it on the hot wire.

Here's how I'm wired. Switch is switching hot line. The ground is not used as there is no connector for it (simple light bulb fixture). Lights are in parallel. Other light fixture has an LED light in it.

Why is this happening, and why is it intermittent?

I've attached a picture of the layout (sorry, it's pretty crude)

  • Where are you on this planet? – ThreePhaseEel Apr 9 '17 at 3:01
  • Take a look at diy.stackexchange.com/questions/38367/…. Not sure it applies but it might. – DoxyLover Apr 9 '17 at 4:11
  • I'm in the states. So, assuming you're curious about voltages.. – asp316 Apr 9 '17 at 4:42
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    You indicated in a comment on an answer that this is a sub-panel with a single circuit fed by a "feeder". Does this "feeder" include both neutral and ground? Did you remove the bonding screw from the neutral buss on this sub-panel? Please explain how this sub-panel is both fed and grounded. – Tyson Apr 9 '17 at 12:54
  • The feeder line includes both ground and neutral from the main panel in the house. I'm using the ground supplied by the main panel. I did not install the bonding screw in the sub-panel in the shed. – asp316 Apr 9 '17 at 14:50
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It sounds like you have a neutral that is getting some voltage somewhere. That can be due to a break in the wiring somewhere else, or a weak connection like a loose wire nut or a loose connection at the breaker panel.

You said you measured the voltage but did not specify which wires you measured. Also you say the ground wire is not used for the fixture. But I infer that there is a ground wire there.

So I would suggest that you measure voltages on both hot and neutral against the ground. That will let you know where the shock voltage is coming in from.

You also said it is intermittent. That could mean the problem is between another switched fixture and the one where you are working; perhaps you get shocked when the other one is turned on. That would indicate that the neutral problem might be at or before the other switched light.

Had to say without the voltage measurements. So do them and repeat them with other switches turned on and off and see if you can localize the problem.

  • I would agree on the neutral. However, both the switch and the breaker are turned off. I could see if the switch was on and the neutral going hot if in parallel. I measured across neutral to hot. You're correct on measuring to ground. I'll do that and post back. This is currently the only circuit wired into the box. So, there should be no bleed thru. However, this is a box fed from a feeder line. Nothing else on the feeder though. – asp316 Apr 9 '17 at 4:47
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Might be this.

This is called a multi-wire branch circuit, common on US split-phase though it can occur on any multi-phase-with-neutral service. Multiple phases or poles share a neutral, the neutral carries only differential current.

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It has special rules and you see why.

  • Neutrals must be pigtailed, for the same reason as grounds - removing a device must not interrupt the neutral wire for other legs of the MWBC.

  • The breakers must be handle tied -- the issue is not common trip (overcurrent on one leg is no reason to shut off the other leg) -- but rather, to assure maintenance shut-off will shut off all legs. Even with neutrals pigtailed, a fault in the neutral wire will cause any leg to energize all other legs.

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