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I have a mower with a Tecumseh LV148AE / LV195EA engine that will run pretty well once it warms-up, but getting it started when cold is quite a challenge.

The way I have been able to get it started is to keep pulling on it about 20 times. At that point, I might get it to fire once or twice. Another 10 pulls and it'll fire again maybe five or eight times. Finally, it'll start running.

Stopping the mower for a few minutes to empty the grass, it'll start up with one or two swift pulls. Even if it's been off for an hour, it will startup after a few swift pulls. But if it sits since the last time the grass was mowed, it needs that huge number of pulls to get running.

My theory is that it's not getting good compression any more. I've ruled out fuel and spark as a problems since it runs pretty much flawlessly once it's warmed-up.

My plan is to do a bit of diagnostics the next time I need to run the mower. I'll start by doing the 10 pulls, and I expect no firing. Then I'll remove the spark plug, put some oil in the cylinder, and replace the spark plug. If it immediately starts, then I'm going to presume that's because the abundant amount of oil is causing a better seal between the piston rings and the cylinder wall, giving me better compression.

Is the above diagnostic idea a valid one?

EDIT: Squirting oil in the cylinder did not make much difference. My next attempt is a new plug. The existing plug looks good and is properly gapped, but I'll try the plug next (simple things first).

Another idea is if the muffler is causing too much back-pressure, so if the plug doesn't help, I'll take the muffler off for another quick test.

EDIT: Additions based on comments

  • The mower has a bulb to press, and I've used it as directed.
  • I have tried starting fluid, but it doesn't have much impact, which is why I was thinking it wasn't a fuel issue.
  • I can get an entire new carburetor, delivered, for $10, which I will try after I replace the plug.
  • Smoke is not a symptom, so that aligns with the oil in cylinder test not having improvement.
  • When I say "cold" I mean North Carolina spring cold, as in 50F. The winter might have gotten down to 20F, though.
  • There is no manually operable choke mechanism.
  • I do not see a fuel filter in the parts diagram.

Last EDIT:

  • Replaced the carburetor (see my answer, below)
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    Does that brand have a fuel pump button to prime the engine? Mine does. I have to press it five ties .. give it a few pulls, prime it again, then it usually sputters to life.
    – Trevor_G
    Mar 9, 2017 at 19:43
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    I would not rule out fuel. Operating the mower can vibrate any impurities into suspension leaving them to settle back on the filter or in the carb after a few hours. It sounds more like a problem with the choke in your case though. Copious amounts of carb cleaner judiciously applied and a look at the link from throttle slide to governor may be fruitful. Mar 9, 2017 at 20:05
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    One of my tricks is to use starting fluid. If it starts with the starting fluid then it's probably a fuel/choke/adjustment related issue. Mar 9, 2017 at 20:07
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    I agree with the possibility of fuel choke as possible problems. I have also had excessive carbon buildup on my rings that made startling tough. I used a product called carbon block added to the fuel after rebuilding the carb and the problem vanished. Another hard start problem I had was on a 4 stroke wheeled line trimmer tried everything finally pulled the head and one of the steel valve seats was loose pressing the seat back in fixed that one.
    – Ed Beal
    Mar 10, 2017 at 0:37
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    Just because it keeps running once warmed doesn't mean the spark plug is "like-new" . Make sure it's clean and gapped. But I would first go with fixing/cleaning the choke mechanism. BTW, if you had a leaky cylinder, you'd almost certainly have continuous smoke from the burning oil. Mar 10, 2017 at 14:01

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I had an identical problem as yours with my Toro 4-cycle mower. Eventually, the mower wouldn't start at all, which I tracked down to a dead ignition module (ignitor). After I replaced it, it's been easily starting for about 4 or 5 years now. The ignitor looks like this:

Ignition module

This may or may not be your problem, but if you've eliminated everything else...
I used a piece of card stock to set the gap between the ignitor and the rotor.

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  • Thanks Bill. I'll add that to the list. After changing oil and new spark plug, still hard starting. Right now the list includes temporarily removing the muffler (easy/cheap), replace carburetor ($10).
    – Dale
    Mar 25, 2017 at 1:17
  • I had trouble starting the mower again, after the carburator was replace. Then that went to the "not start at all" problem and had to replace the ignition coil, as you did. It now starts on the first pull when cold.
    – Dale
    Sep 11, 2018 at 16:37
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The mower starts on the first pull now.

Here is what I did, in order:

  • Replaced the spark plug (properly gapped) - Didn't solve
  • Changed the oil - Didn't solve
  • Replaced the carburetor - Now starts on first pull

The only reason I replaced the carburetor is because I could get it on eBay for $10, delivered. It was pretty easy to install; the top plastic cover came off easily, and so did the muffler. The carburetor is held on with two bolts. One needed a socket and the other needed an open end wrench (due to interference). In other words, easy to install if you have the right tools (socket wrench and open end wrench).

Theory of Why This Fix Worked

Originally, the mower worked once it finally got warmed-up, so I thought fuel was not the problem, and mistakenly focused on compression. My theory is that, although it was always getting fuel, it wasn't getting fuel properly when cold. Thus, replacing the carburetor allowed factory spec fuel delivery, and so the machine returned to easy starting.

Cleaning the Carburetor?

I suspect that cleaning the carburetor also would have worked. There are some little holes you can run a small wire through, and that might have also solved the problem. But since the replacement part was cheap and readily available, I went that route.

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ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, A ONE+ YEAR LATER:

The mower began getting harder and harder to start, and finally just would not start at all. In order to check the spark, I removed the spark plug, then reconnected it, rested it on the block, and pulled the starter rope. No spark. So I ordered the part referenced in Bill's post, here: https://diy.stackexchange.com/a/110886/4323 The mower is now starting in about 1 to 5 pulls.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, AN ADDITIONAL 6 MONTHS LATER:

This spring, I poured fuel into the machine and it immediately began leaking out. Rather than try to figure out what seal was bad in the carburetor, I bought yet another carb and installed it. I made a 10 minute installation video.

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Without knowing how cold "cold" is, my answer may not help, but this really just sounds like typical starting behavior for a cold environment.

As an example, I had a snowblower. When it was 0°F out, the pull starter was next to useless, which is why it had a plug-in electric starter as well. My lawnmower, however, would take a pull or two but in 75°F weather, it would start up nicely in reasonable time.

Warm engines always start up faster, which is why a restart occurs faster, even after an hour or more.

To address some items you mentioned, lawnmower engines aren't built as high-performance engines. It's unlikely that it's worn down the piston rings (if it uses rings) because it doesn't likely run a particularly high compression. It's built to be reliable as opposed to powerful so you sacrifice some gains from a higher CR and instead get lower wear. Also, compression loss wouldn't just affect startup performance. It would also affect running performance, with such symptoms as stalling under load, oil degradation from blow-by, and (if it has a PCV) increased oil consumption. You even noted that adding some oil to the cylinder directly didn't seem to help.

You didn't mention engaging the choke, so perhaps that's your issue? With a cold cylinder, the engine needs excess fuel to establish a flame front at all, and the choke enables that.

Oh, and check the fuel filter.

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I would definitely try replacing the plug, as that might fix the whole issue.

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    Can you expand on why you believe the plug has gone bad (as opposed to any other cause)?
    – Hari
    Mar 24, 2017 at 23:31
  • The new plug might have helped a little bit, but still takes 15 or 20 pulls to get it running, whereas when it was new, it was 2 or 3 pulls.
    – Dale
    Mar 25, 2017 at 1:25

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