I replaced my dishwasher a few days ago. The old one didn't need / use a ground, but the new one does. The old one was coming through a junction box that then went along to a dimmer switch, with 3 wires running to it. I measured with my MM hot - neutral and got 120, then hot to third wire and got 120, then again neutral to third wire and got 0 also. I assumed that that was the ground wire and spliced in a wire at that junction running it to the ground wire of the dishwasher.

Dishwasher works fine now. However, when I turn on the dimmer switch, there's an audible buzzing sound and the lights don't come on. The dishwasher continues to work (or at least stay lit) with this switch on.

What did I mess up?


It's possible that the cap I used to splice the ground wire in was too small for 3 wires. Would this behavior be consistent with a loose ground connection for a dimmer switch?

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  1. It was a loose connection. Fixed that, switch works, no buzzing. But I'm still concerned that the yellow cable coming in is not a ground.
  2. Measuring hot - supposed ground. Switch off - 120V. Switch on - 0V. Neutral - supposed ground. Switch off - 0V. Switch on - 120V. Is this a switched hot? This is off the old dishwasher circuit breaker. The only thing on it is the dishwasher, dimmer lights and one kitchen outlet. Why would there be a switched hot down there?

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Center hole - in from the wall. White, Black and Yellow wires. Conduit to the right - goes to dimmer switch. Conduit up goes to the new dishwasher box. It looks like there are 4 wires running to the DW box, there aren't. The yellow just loops past it. I'm using a scrap of white wire for the ground (I know, I'll fix it - all I had at the time).

  • Open that back up and get a good picture. It "sounds" like you created a short. A ground wire should have given you 120 on hot to ground, not zero.
    – Tyson
    Dec 4, 2016 at 0:48
  • @Tyson :facepalm: - typo, my bad. you're right, hot to ground was 120. neutral to ground was 0. if it were shorter, the dishwasher wouldn't run. trying to have a plan before i go back in, as pulling the dw is a giant pain.
    – kolosy
    Dec 4, 2016 at 0:51
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    I doubt anyone will be able to help you until you can show us what you're looking at. Buzzing noise is serious. Probably because it's a dimmer is why the breaker isn't tripping.
    – Tyson
    Dec 4, 2016 at 0:58
  • Can you post photos of the mess? Dec 4, 2016 at 1:24
  • Were you measuring voltages with the dimmer switch on, off, or dimmed? Wonder if you found a switched hot instead of a ground
    – mmathis
    Dec 4, 2016 at 3:17

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Yellow is indeed not a ground

Your house was wired up using conduit (rigid and flexible) instead of cable -- therefore, the electrician could use whatever wire colors he so pleased (with the only ones off limits being white, grey, and green) instead of being stuck with the NM-cable defaults. Furthermore, the conduit itself is a grounding conductor, so there's no need for further grounding wires running inside it.

So, simply use a green or bare jumper to a grounding screw in the box (there are dedicated holes in the back for a standard 10-32 grounding screw) to ground your dishwasher. And the yellow is likely a switched hot indeed -- the buzzing was the dimmer's way of complaining about the wiring.

  • That's exactly what I did, thanks. Other boxes in my house had dedicated ground wires, which I why I was hesitant to use conduit (thought maybe I didn't know something). A little googling confirmed that FMC grounding is to code in Chicago.
    – kolosy
    Dec 4, 2016 at 23:05

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