I want to put three pendant lights where there is no light currently. I drilled a test hole with a drill bit and hit wood. I'm trying to move it elsewhere, but if not can I do something with a pancake junction box attached to the stud and cut only the drywall out? Any other ideas short of moving the light?

  • How many cables are running into this box? Nov 3, 2016 at 1:45
  • There is no box, just a wire going to track lighting about 8 inches off center of dining room table. I want to remove track lighting, then put in three pendents centered on table. So, a 12/2 going into first box, then connected to each in line.
    – user20127
    Nov 3, 2016 at 1:51
  • This plan will violate box fill requirements in all boxes. The most you can have in a 6 inch pancake box is 2 14 gauge and one grounding wire with no internal clamp and no strap.
    – bib
    Nov 3, 2016 at 2:00
  • @bib -- yeah, a saddle box would be a far better bet for the querent's requirements. Nov 3, 2016 at 2:10

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You'll want to use a saddle mount ceiling box with at least 11.25in3 of space for this application as pancake boxes don't have enough room for 2 incoming 12/2 W/G cables -- they don't even have 10in3 of space, typically. (Image below is simply representative.)

an exemplar saddle mount box

  • Thanks. I didn't know that existed. Now if I could just find it in stock somewhere local....
    – user20127
    Nov 3, 2016 at 22:54

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