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I have my live wire coming into a 2gang switch box. I'm splitting off from their; one wire for two pot lights which one switch will control, a separate wire for the middle one which will be solely controlled by the second switch; then down to a receptacle.

So ultimately I have 4 black and 4 white wires to configure.... i don't think tying all 4 blacks with pigtails (one for each switch and one for the receptacle) is the "right way to go about it?

Thoughts?

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If I understand your plan, it's correct. You need to split the incoming black three ways--to the two switches and the first outlet in the chain.

From the switches you'll run blacks out to your lights. Each switch will have two black wires connected. The white switch loop returns will bundle together with the other whites, including the one from the outlet chain.

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The devices merely indicate wire purpose. Where in your boxes you make the connections is discretionary within the constraints of each box's limit.

  • Hmm that's 7 14/2 wires bundled together! Seems like a lot. Think the red wire nuts I have are only rated to 6 - guess I'll have to get some higher capacity nuts IF they exist? – Tony Oct 18 '16 at 17:06
  • No... 4 black and 4 white, connected in bundles. Where are we misaligned in our thinking here? – isherwood Oct 18 '16 at 17:08
  • Pigtails for the three spits? – Tony Oct 18 '16 at 17:09
  • Answer updated. – isherwood Oct 18 '16 at 17:17
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    Looks right to me, I see four wires coming together, not 7. Four is fine, I do that all the time with 12 AWG. If it's all in the same box I'd skip the imtermediate splice on the neutrals. – Harper - Reinstate Monica Oct 18 '16 at 17:25
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If you leave yourself enough wire in the box, you can use a single wire to connect all the devices. Simply remove a bit of insulation, and loop the exposed wire around the terminal screw of the first device. Then remove a bit more insulation a bit further down the wire, and loop that exposed wire around the screw terminal on the next device. Finally, terminate the end of the wire on the terminal of the last device.

It should look something like this...

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Even if you didn't leave enough wire in the box, you could make something like this out of a scrap piece of wire. Then simply connect the loose end to the feed with a wire connector.

  • oh; interesting. this is an acceptable way to wire? ie up to code etc? – Tony Oct 18 '16 at 17:58
  • @Tony Yes, inspectors should be fine with this wiring method. – Tester101 Oct 18 '16 at 18:12
  • @FYI, inspectors hardly ever, if not never look at the wiring behind devices. Once in a blue moon they may check if "some" boxes are correctly installed to the minimum depth. – Kris Oct 19 '16 at 8:54
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    @Kris that's true when inspecting the work of an Electrician. When checking diy work, some inspectors look a bit closer. – Tester101 Oct 19 '16 at 10:05
  • @Tester101, ahh ha.. good point. Though I think it is impractical if not impossible for a DIY to apply for a electrical permit since they obviously do not meet the State requirements for electrical work, ergo I have to disagree with you. – Kris Oct 19 '16 at 10:17

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