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Trying to install a ceiling fan in a junction box that should be fan-rated per the builder. It's on a metal bar mounted between joists. But the holes on the fan bracket are roughly 4 inches apart (center-to-center), and the junction box holes are roughly 3 inches apart. I will try to scrape the paint off the junction box to see if I can find any text that says it's fan rated. But wanted to get input from the experts here if this does look like a fan rated box. If so, are there any adapters that could be used to mount the fan to this existing junction box? I'm also attaching a photo of the ceiling before the drywall went up that shows what the fan mount looks like.

Thanks in advance!

FanMount JunctionBox JunctionBox2 FabBracket

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  • Attempting to adjust for any parallax error, this looks like the slots are 3-9/16" - 1/2" apart, or 3-1/16". Granted, that's a bit snug considering the screw diameter, but it's workable.
    – isherwood
    Commented Aug 5 at 20:18
  • What brand of fan is this and what do the instructions say? Do the instructions allow for installing directly under the ceiling joist the box is hugging and so using the box only for the electical connections? does the parts package come with special wood screws for securing the bracket into the wooden ceiling joist (through the drywall)? Commented Aug 8 at 22:19

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It is hard to tell if the box is fan rated or not. You will need to remove some paint for that.

If the box is fan rated, the slots in the fan mount allow screws to be used with 3 inch spacing. The screws should be at least 1 inch long preferably longer.

If needed you could file the slots a little to get your 3 inch spacing, but only if the box is fan rated. Otherwise get a true fan rated box.

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    Why not try the oblong slots in the adapter plate? They look to be 3” apart.
    – Ben Mealey
    Commented Aug 4 at 15:53
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3 options

1- since you have access from top, replace the fan mount with right size box and cut a bigger hole in the ceiling

2- mount a adapter plate with 3 inch apart and provision for 4 inch spaced holes to mount the fan

3- get a new fan

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I question whether that box is rated for a heavy fan, or really whether it is fan rated at all. The ears the supporting bolts would thread into would probably carry the load of a modern lighter duty fan (e.g., modern Hunter) but would the threads hold? You would also need screws/bolts rated to carry this load.

The bar would probably support a medium duty fan and you should be able to just replace the box with a truly fan rated one. The fan rated boxes usually have a greater depth of female threads for each of the two screws/bolts to thread into, not just 1/8" thick tabs.

How high off the floor is this? How capable are you working on a tall step ladder. (At age 80 I think about falls.)

What brand of fan do you have? The tape measure obscures the fan support bracket. I have installed a number of Hunter fans, both the old oil bath heavy fans (decades ago) and more recently the new light weight ball bearing ones.

The new Hunter fans are designed so they can be installed off-center of the box and directly into a ceiling joist. If the electrical box is adjacent to the joist. the large fan shroud covers the box. The fan is not supported by the box but directly by the joist. The Hunter parts package came with special wood screws with washers rated for this.

Of course if the joist is not centered in the room then the fan would not be centered. Look at the instructions for your fan. I installed some of these fans slightly off the exact center of large rooms and it did not show, but if this is a narrow foyer, then it might be more important to get the fan exactly centered.

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  • What specific deficiency brought on the down vote? I edited the answer. A ceiling fan could cause severe injury if it would fall. Of course this is unlikely but it is not good practice to use a box not honestly rated for a fan or screws/bolts not rated for the load. Commented Aug 8 at 22:27

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